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A number of high-profile, conservative influencers in the US have said they are “victims” of an alleged Russian disinformation campaign, after the Biden administration accused Moscow of carrying out a sustained campaign to influence the outcome of November’s presidential elections.

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson published statements on Wednesday evening addressing allegations that a US content creation company they were associated with had been provided with nearly $10m from Russian state media employees to publish videos with messages in favour of Moscow’s interests and agenda, including over the war in Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

They knew exactly what they were doing. They're "victims" only now they've been caught.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Victims or willing accomplices?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Even if you accept the claim that they were duped at face value, what does that say about them? These folk's whole pretense is that they can "see through the media's lies" and that they are able to tell what is really going on. But they were not smart enough to recognize that they were part of a propaganda campaign? They want you to believe they have a sophisticated ability to recognize media manipulation but also now want you to believe that they were hapless stooges that were tricked into participating in a media manipulation campaign.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Imagine the suspension of intellect it must take to admit that Russia is willing to pay you push the narrative you are already pushing, or are willing to push, and then considering yourself a victim for doing it.

You weren't the target, you were the tool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Some people deserve to go to Ukraine as a paid Ruzzian cannonfodder

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

No one is less accountable than conservatives. Always someone else’s fault.

Please crawl into a hole somewhere and disappear.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

If you take russian money and distribute the crap they tell you to, you are accomplice, not victim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Russian influence campaign that just started, and hasn't been running since before the 2016 election? These same influencers assure me that the allegations of Russian influence are just liberal media bullshit, and these Russian influenced people wouldn't lie about Russian influence, would they?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

If I was supporting a cause which had Putin so enthusiasticly supporting it, I'd probably wonder if it was a cause that I should continue to support.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just remember this : when Mitt Romney called Russia our greatest threat in 2012 the GOP rushed to his defense. A decade later they were openly admiring Putin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And Obama bagged on Romney for it.

“The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back.”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The only reason Russia became a threat is that they had Trump there carrying their water.

Also, if Trump had the brains of a Fredo Corleone he would have realized that none of the kompromat Putin had on him would matter once he was in office. The CIA would swear up and down that it was 'fake news.'

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Not even a decade later , within 4-6 they were politically fellating Putin because Donny dipshit has controlled the party since ~2015/6, and he's been under Russian influence for much longer, if not from the government, then from the Russian mob (I know, I'm repeating myself).

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

One should add, they were willing victims of that campaign. We all remember what kind of senseless dribble they amplified that could have been discarded as false after a simple google search.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They sided with the pandemic because Putin said so. They’re welcome to jobs outside the public eye, but not in it after that

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are they really "victims" if they were willing and profiting? Seems like you're just an accomplice at that point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or completely stupid? If I spew idiocies what am I if not either paid to do it or literally an idiot?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Or completely stupid?

I don't think it's an and/or situation with that one lol. They are definitely stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They're only victims because they got caught. If they never got caught, they'd be happily taking Russian money everyday of the week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's fair to call The Useful Idiot a victim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Are you really a victim if you are willfully ignorant? Tim Pool loves to brag about how uneducated he is

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sounds like something an idiot would brag about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a) Certainly. b) FYI it's "senseless drivel" which sounds almost exactly the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Tim Pool the Russian Tool™

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Russia definitely would play both sides to fuel it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At least they admit they're gullible fools

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I think this goes well beyond gullibility

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 months ago (5 children)

"Victims of"? No.

"Beneficiaries of"? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I think they are admitting to being idiots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Better than prison. These people could be in big trouble... But they won't be because of their political views. They will get slaps on the wrist and allowed back to continue their campaigns of stochastic terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The Russians are refusing to pay me so now I'm the victim!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

When you do something and get paid for it? That's called a job.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the ones that aren't being paid for it are just pawns envious of the kings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly I am puzzled every time I see someone ragebaiting and/or having a very bad take without that wretched checkmark on X

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

No, you see... They thought they were beneficiaries, but since trump is not doing so hot, they are not sure right now.

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