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The AfD was twice as effective at reaching first-time voters on the app than all other parties combined, according to an analysis of platform data. This may explain why the party performed so well among young voters.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If only it was limited to TikTok. YouTube always recommends me those right shit videos, just because I'm german. (And no, it's not personalization. I've turned that off, and it seems to work, YouTube doesn't recommend me anything similar to the stuff that I actually watch.)
And if I didn't know that and how those right populists want to manipulate me, I would have long been radicalized already. There are just too many gullible people. Ads work for them, classical populism works for them, they give nigerian princes their money, they believe in superstition, why would anyone think voters were suddenly at least borderline resistent against populism?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i am also german, i didnt get those right wing contents. which content are we talking about, by the way`?

have you examples?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry for the late answer. Somehow I got a bad case of demo effect.

For example, under this video I'm getting recommendations such as:

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

huh, that sure is wierd. i clicked the video on your link. i had the usual thing recommended: spaceships, farm machinery, how to play solo x on guitar, star trek and star wars news, and i had one anti afd video.

i assume the problem lies in what you watched and did before on the internet. google is very connected, you see. you get always more of the things you researched and watched.

i use firefox and have llots of various blockers and privacy stuff enabled, and turned off everything i could turn of in google and youtube, i mean, the datamining stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It will likely also depend on where you live, i.e. city vs rural area.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

for sure, I just recently also turned geo location stuff of, even camera and microphone. I read a couple of articles that mentioned various issues with third parties listening to words, and what ever whattsapp does, i dont even want to know.

i always said it was just conspiracy talk that this mirophone listens to us, but earnestly, why are so mamny apps connected to the microphone anyway?

well. I have to delete my google account sooner or later. getting worse and worse prices onlineshopping is also a huge concern.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I live over there, so :

young people are not the voting demographic, give me a break.

as if all those village inbreds aged 30 - 90 would go on tik tok.

and IF all these people ware watching nazi ads on tik took:

so what? they certainly don't read the newspapers, and the democratic partys won't try to make them better offerings anyway. because all these convincing offerings would consist of more infrastructure, more public transport, more wages, better future prospects. and what have you.

but thats far to expensive, and is not at all what the democartic centrist parties are doing right know. so they CAN'T bring the voter better arguments and offerings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sum this up in 2 sentences. I'm trying to parse this and worry I'm getting the wrong impression.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the rich and powerfull dont want to give the poor people money. if the poor people had money, they would't worry about their future existance and fall prey to manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yup, that's how it begins. I hoped that the EU and the harsh WWII memories will make a difference

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Not that I needed another reason to dislike TikTok but...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The chairwoman for the AfD, Alice Weidel, worked for the Bank of China. It would not surprise me if she used her connections with the CCP and TikTok to persuade the fucking idiots in Thüringen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So… wait. Everyone is back to hating TikTok again?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Was it ever any different? People who use it like it and people who don't, hate it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bad headline. Should have titled as 'AfD is better at promotion on tiktok' or something of that sort

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

exactly. even i can make videos in tik tok for my "ritalin is better than alcohol " party. takes 5 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Many first timers on Tiktok report that the first thing they see is this nazi crap right after registration. This is not normal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cold start is a hard problem for recommendations. It probably shows what's popular in the nearby locations and/or matching demographics. Why's it not normal?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because in most countries including Germany social networks filter these kinds of posts and try to fight against misinformation, racism, etc.

Tiktok can be used as a weapon. It can stir up communities and manipulate views. My impression is that it is done on purpose and it's been instructed by the Chinese government.

I don't have a proof but in American politics you can see tendencies against Tiktok. They are aware of these subtle issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that would basically mean that there is only nazi content on tik tok. OR they use your data footprint to how you what they want you to see.

every media is being used by various parties to influence you.

you don't need china for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no problem with parties and companies influencing me. I have a problem with parties and companies that openly violate the constitution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

then sue them. it is your bürgerpflicht. oder zeig sie an.kostet nichts, dauert 30 minuten online.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ich mache mir die Mühe. Danke für den Hinweis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

hab ich auch schon ein paar mal gemacht, ob was passiert, kann ich naturlich nicht beeinflussen.

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