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The problem I had with nano is that, for the time being, it was supposed to be easy to use. With that in account I always get lost when saving a file and closing the thing because one's used to doing something else with Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X.
Whereas with Vim (and Neovim for a little while, and now with Vis) I knew it had a steep learning curve from the start so I always had it in mind. And all the funny stories about quitting vim.
they've changed those bindings now, Ctrl+S, Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V, and Ctrl+C all do what you think they do
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Vim (or emacs, or any other advanced text editor) is much easier to use than nano when you need to do something more complex than type couple of lines.
(...once you learn the bindings)
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I started on Unix systems using Vim, so I find Nano to be the confusing editor. A Vim install is one of the first things I do on a new server.
Easy is relative. What are you trying to do? Replace a value in an yaml file? Then nano is easier. Trying to refactor a business critical perl/brainfuck polyglot script in production? Then you probably want to use vim (or emacs if you are one of those people)
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For vim I had to config or install something just to be able to COPY something to use outside vim, how backwards is that? Isn't this the most standard feature one can expect to work as default?
You mean you couldn't copy some text from vim and paste it into another application? if yes, what did you have to install/configure for that? I've never had any issues copy paste from/to vim, console/GUI windows/Unix.
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Nah... vim users fight emacs users, but not nano users. Wrong league. We do not beat little children ;)
Nano is more like fast food. It’s easy and convenient, but it makes you feel a little guilty and dirty afterwards.
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The Terminator is not here to kill you, its here to protect you from Emacs (which can change its form to anything).
Cmon dude, what's most likely to be Skynet?
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Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.
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Emacs: the hippie brain child of some of the brightest minds at the MIT AI lab, funded by military contracts. Slow, but uses a near-universal language that can easily escape the bounds of the editor, (and often does (, and holy shit where did those parentheses come from. (Oh no, it's becoming self-aware - fly you fools....!
Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.
I don't know why you want use Vimscript for anything outside of the editor. But if that your issue, then there is Neovim. It uses Lua instead Vimscript, but what is the benefit of using Lua outside of Vim? That changes nothing.
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That's like the picture of a normal dude with Nano, a large Vim dude, a larger buff Emacs dude and an ever larger massive Ed dude.
Do people still use ed unironically outside of scripting context?
Unironically? Maybe not. But using something ironically is still using it.
Ed is like Skynet itself.
Don't forget the joe user in the corner wearing a trench coat with a bomb strapped to his chest wired to a dead man's switch.
eh the emacs folks are just chilling in a corner somewhere. Maybe in the old folks home together with the ed users