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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

The video footage followed?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (8 children)

As an American: I'm really sorry if we infected you with this particular brand of idiocy. If only there were a vaccine...

Someone's going to reply: education is, but I offer PragerU as counter-evidence. There's a quality scale in education, as well.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Prager u isn't education, it's propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I frequently have youtube up on my TV for background noise.

PragerU and those AI generated ads talking about free money are things I see far to frequently, and make me far too irrationally angry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Call them and yell at them. It will make you feel better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Nah, my phone raging is reserved for one very special group of worthless, miserable wastes of existences whom I would love to do actual, physical violence too.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'd honestly be surprised if the whole concept doesn't predate the US as a country.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry. My country's bible belt has been used in epidemic studies for measles long ago. It's not just 'Murica.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Now I'm curious where the Bible belt is in your country

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (6 children)

American here, how do you de - arrest someone? Over here once you're arrested only a judge // jury can say you're not guilty, the person that made the arrest, or the police don't have any say in that part of the criminal justice system.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

It happens all the time. Officer makes the decision to arrest, puts the person in handcuffs and the car. A supervisor shows up, a story gets changed, or an officer finds out that something proves someone is lying, and the person is released. I've seen it happen when a non-violent offender had warrants, but it turned out they were having a kid's birthday party (discovered when the dad came out to check on the mom because she'd been outside 'smoking' for longer than usual).

Arrested is a step up from detention. Detention = you're not free to leave. Arrested = you are not free to go, you're coming with the officer to jail, and they have belief you committed a crime that you will be charged with (or have a warrant, thus already charged). There is nothing that says once arrested an officer can't take off handcuffs and let you go. There really isn't that much distinguishing the two in the law, except for statutes about identifying yourself (where I live, anyway). My laws use the word custody in far greater amounts than arrest.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As a fellow US citizen, my American brain can also not comprehend this. How do you de-shoot someone?!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If you're de-arrested you're not locked in a cell (custody). If you're released after questioning it's being de-arrested. If you're held in a cell during any of it you can't be de-arrested, you have to be "released without charge".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-29784497

"de-arrested" is not technically the same as "released without charge". The key difference in terminology is whether the person is taken into custody and processed, says a spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/01/law.emmabrockes

TLDR:

  • Arrest - copper has you.
  • De-arrest - Copper lets go.
  • Released without charge - Released from police custody cell (jail) after an arrest.
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Police can release without charge.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's different than being arrested. Police can hold you for like 24 hours without charging you with anything. Once your officially charged and arrested it's in the system and goes at the speed of the system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The opposite of arresting someone is to release them, and police can do it.

Charging someone with a crime is a separate process done by the prosecutor's office. They can also drop charges.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't the AG just decline to prosecute and release you? Being arrested =/= being charged after all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That can and does happen, but it's still a process that takes months at minimum. Months that your either sitting in jail, or if you're one of the privileged, you'd be sitting out on bail, possibly on house arrest depending on if the judge set any conditions to your release upon bail.

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Rofl, if this isn't bullshit, those cops must have either been bored out of their minds or just had a good sense of humor.

This is the law enforcement equivalent to a little kid yelling "BOO!" at you, and you pretending to be scared.

"Whaaaaat, you're arresting -meeee-?!?! Oh noooooo!"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

Narrator voice: "it was bullshit"

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anti-vax sovcit? Mark my words - with that level of conspiracism and entitled self-victimisation, they'll be a full-blown Nazi by the end of the year.

It's always the Jews with these fuckers.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I can only assume he said "you're arrested".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's exactly what he did. He just kept asking one officer to arrest the other officer and they all refused and just stared at him like he was a nutjob.

Eventually he just declared they were arrested.

https://www.unilad.com/news/antivaxxer-wants-police-officer-arrested-over-genocide-20220121

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

He probably wrote it in red ink at 45 degrees on the cops’ shadow.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Hey cops, I arrested some of your officers, come get them"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with the centre?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

During COVID, a large number of community centres, and other available buildings were turned into temporary vaccination centres, to distribute the COVID vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Sounds like they vaccinate people against diseases, which certain people think is a conspiracy. That's my guess

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I really really really wish these people would try this to cops in America. The more dead anti-vaccine morons, the better.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I strongly suspect the UK officers came to have a laugh at their expense when told some idiots were trying to "arrest" the police.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

"Mate, you need to come round here and see this wanker"

[–] [email protected] 115 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No way this isn’t satire

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No apparently a video exists of this.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That I'd like to see. I'll get the popcorn

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The situation is dumb, but citizen's arrest in general is covered by laws in some counties, UK being among them.
In specific situations, a random person on the street can arrest a criminal lawfully.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Absolutely, they can. I did it several times as a security person at Walmart. The biggest difference is that a citizen does not have immunity to being sued, and a citizen can not transport. You better be damn sure you're right, or you're getting sued into oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

This is the UK law for citizens arrest really the most important difference between this and a police arrest is the police can arrest you with the intention of finding out IF a crime has been commited, whereas you must know a crime has been commited by the person you're arresting, otherwise it's just kidnapp

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago

And under the correct circumstances, you can even lawfully arrest a cop.

Technically. Good luck actually pulling it off.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah, but do they have the right to un-arrest?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If you did that, good luck in court proving that you had the right to arrest them in the first place while you're getting sued.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago

De-arrest*

You have to use the correct magic words or they don't work.

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