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badempanada starting drama!.1.1..!1_??1/

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't think this is that big of a deal. Some of y'all are reacting way too strongly at this.

Just so we're clear, he is very much not an ultra. His takes towards Global South states are much too well-rounded for that to be true.

BadEmpanada is just pissed that Hasanabi isn't even more of an advocate for Palestinians, which is a fine point of view. If it makes some people advocate more strongly for Palestine, that's always a plus.

His main channel does pretty great work. For example, he has really good videos on Israel, Kurzgesagt's pro-capitalist climate change propaganda, and how Wikipedia lies about the Holodomor 'genocide'.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

What's his stance on China? I have never seen him speak positively about China. On the other hand he seems to think China is committing a cultural genocide against Uyghurs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Here is the context video on his main channel for why he's frustrated at Hasanabi for not being more hardline on Palestine: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WSd-blcw6YI

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

☢️☢️☢️ Treat his live channel like you would radioactive waste. ☢️☢️☢️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

One of them thinks the US's Xinjiang propaganda is real, one of them doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s best to pretend @BadempanadaLive doesn’t exist. I’ve never seen anything good come of it.

His main channel is a mixed bag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Mfw a political commentator goes to a major political event.

Hasan spent the entire time interviewing uncommitted delegates, Palestine protesters, labour organizers, and so forth. Not to mention he was given a press suite worth tens of millions of dollars to book, for free.

I don’t see what the problem is? It just seems that Empanada is trying to maximize viewership from the Vaush and Destiny crowds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t like that Argentinian ultra

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Worse even, Australian

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I thought Bad Empanada genuinely does have Argentinian "blood"? I thought that was partially why he was able to move there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Didn't he and the uncommitted delegates get kicked out? Unless he joined the clapping seals to cheer the genocide, what's the issue?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

FedEmpanada.

Fuck that guy so much, I don't even care much about Hasan and don't know what this recent drama is but I just see FedEmpanada and have to dunk on him every time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Whats wrong with badempanada? I've seen a few video essays from him that I thought were pretty solid. Also what exactly is an ultra? I saw this mentioned in other comments

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He once made a video about the "Uyghur Genocide". That's already enough to know the level of the guy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While I haven't watched BadEmpanada's videos about the fictional Uyghur genocide, my understanding (and I could be very wrong) was that he wasn't saying it was all real, he was saying that China might have actually committed some atrocities/major human rights violations, and that socialists shouldn't dismiss accusations just because we don't like them. But that the U.S. government was grossly exaggerating China's actions and spinning them into an extremely negative and slanderous light.

Namely that imprisoning people for being affiliated with terrorist groups, depending on the degrees of separation and circumstances, or sentencing people to prison or rehabilitation facilities or "forcing" them into education or job-training technically is a violation of their autonomy and individual rights, but it's genuinely for the greater long-term individual and societal good, kind of like forcing a sick person to take life-saving medication against their will.

But that being said, I'm really suspicious of Bad Empanada and how he seems to be carrying water for the fascist Amerikkkan colonial empire's lies of genocide, and I feel disgusting typing all of this and I'm not trying to defend him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Edit: I guess BadEmpanada has an account here.

I think it may be because you appeared to be speaking out of both sides of your mouth on this. I remember when that video came out and it was at a very sensitive time for the subject. MLs were inundated with demands for refutations by anarchists, trots and other assorted liberals. He caused a huge amount of damage with his bullshit. I'll never forgive him for it.

I just found this while I was googling for Dr Asatar Bair's debunking of his bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

He's got good takes on 90% of things and has good videos, but his personality outside his serious content is very irritating, the guy just enjoys riling people up and being a troll online, which can get annoying fast.

Ultras are basically entitled "leftists" that think AES countries are all revisionists or not "real" socialism, and generally end up falling for US state department propaganda about every foreign socialist project.

I wouldn't call Badempanada an ultra though, his videos on the shining path make that quite unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

No influencers, no podcasters. theory-gary