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US conservatives have always accused liberals of being 'communist' or sympathetic towards communism, but it seems to have reached a new level in the Trump era. For a long time, I thought that hyping the specter of communism was just cynicism and ignorance, but I'm now wondering if maybe they are seeing increased interest in communism, and that's what spooking this. There are a few reasons this seems plausible to me:

  1. Younger Americans are more favorable towards 'socialism' than previous generations, and less favorable towards 'capitalism'.
  2. Trump's support is strongest among well-off people who live in economically depressed areas. In other words, they are rich people who are increasingly surrounded by poor people over the past few decades.

This seems like a recipe for them to encounter adamant socialists/communists, but I've heard nothing about an uptick of socialist/communist advocacy, specifically in the regions where Trump supporters live. Most of the socialists/communists I hear of are in the big Democrat-dominated cities... but that may just be that those are the locations with high enough population density to organize large events that get into the news.

Do you have any thoughts on how to get a nationwide picture of where people support socialism? I figure that the Republicans would not necessarily be seeing large expressions of support for socialism, but may get riled up by any expression of support.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

luckily USA is still quite far from communism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Conservative pundits performing outrage over communism don't care (or often even know) what communism is or isn't. It's almost entirely dog whistling. Crushing socialism is bipartisan. They're both bourgeois parties protecting private ownership of the means of production.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't have an answer to your question, but I wanted to share why I think it's hard to achieve the goal of getting reliable information about these topics.

We have this massive conservative influencer infrastructure (Fox News, etc) and they train their audiences, like parrots, to disregarded the meanings of words and associate a simple emotion with that word instead. No nuance. No curiosity. No questions.

Examples of words they've done this with: Communism, socialism, woke, the term "a woman".

Next, train your audience to be angry at curiosity and questioning. That's not that hard, the church does that from a young age in religious regions, so the religious are perfectly primed to accept "intellectual drivel" without question and be completely unaware they are being used as "useful idiots" by a machine that wants to consume them.

So with that context in mind, I feel like you'd either need to design an experiment that included an educational portion.. or find a way to disguise your questions to avoid the pre-programmed terms.