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Why tf is it that whenever somebody with autism does something common for autistic people, autism is never a valid excuse and they're pieces of shit? How fucking dare we have some struggles that make it hard to not be seen as awkward or creepy or whatever be society?

Like that post a whole ago where a teenage boy was getting mixed messages from a girl he liked, telling him she wanted to be friends but then accusing him off stalking her for trying to hang out. Assholes with allism judged the shit out of him in the comments, acting like he was antisocial and didn't respect consent bc he didn't understand how people with allism lie about their feelings to try "be nice". How fucking dare a literal teenage boy with autism not understand and respect the moment a supposed friend turns on them and makes him out to be a creep?

I wish all people with allism a very learn some fucking empathy you pieces of shit

They will always hate us for being autistic. Why do we ever bother giving them a single ounce of respect? Why not treat them like they treat us? Lie to their faces about what we want and make them feel like shit for not conforming to autistic standards? That would be a lot nicer than they deserve

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I agree allistic people can sometimes lack empathy to those that are different, but doesn't this attitude kind of undermine your point?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can we not use the term allism please? It’s exclusively been used in my experience to draw a divide and not one that’s healthy.

Also this post and your last one are so ranty. It’s completely unproductive. And before I’m accused otherwise I’m diagnosed ASD….

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't want us using the word "allism", should we also not use "autism"? The real divide comes from having a word for one group but not the other.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Neurotypical is the word you’re looking for. Where do you slot ADHD folks in the autism vs allism spectrum? Because if it’s the latter that’s not fair to those of us with adhd and if it’s the former then it’s neurodivergence which…..already has a counterpart.

My point is autism is a defined thing. Allism is not having the thing. But my original comment still remains the use of allism generally comes with a negative connotation. Whether that’s part of the denotation makes no difference.

EDIT to add I’m an atheist. There is no word for me not being catholic though. I’m also not Baptist or Muslim. But I don’t need a descriptor for each one. Where you fall in the divergence spectrum is categorized but not falling in there already has a designation. Hope that clears up my point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Where do you slot ADHD folks in the autism vs allism spectrum

???

ADHD is orthogonal to autism. You can be autistic with ADHD or allistic with ADHD.

But my original comment still remains the use of allism generally comes with a negative connotation. Whether that’s part of the denotation makes no difference.

You're reading connotations that aren't there. This is a community of autistic people. We don't do that "say one thing but mean another" thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A few assholes shouldn't result in a them/us divide.

Mutual compassion is necessary, and most people give it if met with it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

You're right, that thread the other day just made me feel really horrible. I had a similar situation when I was a teenager, where I asked out someone I was friends with and got rejected, and she said she wanted to be friends, but then acted like I was a creep bc I sat next to her on the bus like I would with any friend. She tried to get me kicked out of my group of friends too. All this while still claiming to be my friend and not giving me any idea of how she felt. Those cunts on that thread would call me a psycho creep for not just picking up on her negative vibes, or seeing through her lies. Seeing shit like that makes me never wanna interact with NTs again