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I recently spent some time with the Framework 13 laptop, evaluating it with the new Intel Core Ultra 7 processor and the AMD Ryzen 7 7480U. It felt like the perfect opportunity to test how a handful of games ran on Windows 11 and Fedora 40. I was genuinely surprised by the results!

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The Framework 13 is perfectly capable of gaming even with its integrated graphics, provided you’re willing to compromise by lowering the resolution and quality presets for more demanding games. (It’s also a testament to how far AMD’s APUs have come in the past decade.)

Summary of results:

  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Linux wins
  • Total War: Warhammer III: Windows wins
  • Cyberpunk 2077: Linux wins
  • Forza Horizon 5: Windows wins

These results are an interesting slice of the Linux vs Windows gaming picture, but certainly not representative of the entire landscape. A few shorts years ago, however, I never would have dreamed I’d be writing an article where even two games on Linux are outperforming their Windows counterparts.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (19 children)

What I'm still missing unfortunately is how seemingly all modern online games require stupid kernel level anti-cheats that don't work on Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

If only we had a fix for the crazy performance discrepancy that pops up when running DX12 + RTX titles!

A1RM4X - DirectX 12 and ray tracing are broken on Linux? Wukong benchmarks results - Windows vs Linux

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, the article is written by Jason Evanghelo. Of course, he’s a giant Linux shill working at Forbes :D

Still great to see such press

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I recognized that name... he's working at Thunderbird!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it says a lot more about how much recent versions of Windows have bogged down the whole gaming experience.

Microsoft seems to have forgotten that people want an operating system that works, not something bloated with bullshit like telemetry, advertisements, tracking cookies and artificial intelligence. The only reason they even have a market lead in the desktop space is due to marketing and monopolistic practices.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how Windows would perform against Linux with all bloatware removed and telemetry disabled.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

would there even be an OS left?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not an OS, that's three spywares in a trenchcoat!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Im so glad I fully switched to Linux. I was amazed how good the gaming performance have come nowadays. I tried out Ubuntu back in 2007 and have tried some other distros too during the years, but always went back to Windows because of games. Not anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Aw, I can't get cyberpunk to run on my mint install - it gets the logos and stops responding.

Some people read about performance, sometimes I'm just motivated knowing someone on the internet did get a game running in the first instance! :)

I will say though, Baldurs Gate 3 works perfectly, as does anything else I throw at it! :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A couple of months ago I had the same problem on Debian Unstable. Then I tried it on Fedora 40 and it worked flawlessly.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk worked out of the box for me, but senua 2 absolutely refuses to start no matter what kind of voodoo I try ("fatal error"). I seem to always be on the opposite spectrum of protondb mint users I swear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It wouldn't run for me until I got the Steam version (in Tumbleweed). Works great now.

It would have been better if it had worked with just one copy though. At least I got it on sale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

How odd! I must admit with cyberpunk, I was reading ProtonDB and had a "that's one fine game... why doesn't mine look like that!" Simpsons moment. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mine runs in Fedora. Are you accessing via steam?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I am indeed! I tried popping in the skip launcher commands from a few people on ProtonDB, and it seems to be rather grumpy with me 😅 I've read it could be the Phantom Liberty DLC being DRM'd, but not sure :)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I managed to get it running on EndeavorOS!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Nice! Consider me doubly motivated to give it another go this weekend :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes i feel weird and impressed with Microsoft that allow third party to create windows emulation system that beat original windows in many ways

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is mostly a translation layer -- WINE is Not an Emulator (WINE). The reason Microsoft 'allows' this is because they have no choice. WINE hasn't broken any laws or violated any copyright or trademarks. Same goes for Proton with DXVK of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Although i never fully understand how wine works, how WINE doesn't break any lawsuit ? It's clearly mimicking windows itself with windows library (like VC Library, DotNet, DirectX, etc) as add-ons
Now i hope linux community can do the same with Nintendo Emulator or Sony PS emulator without triggering lawsuit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If I remember correctly, the only thing WINE has "copied" are the function calls and signatures (which are the adaptors as mentioned in the other response). The function implementation is completely original.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In a highly simplified way:

  • Think of Windows as an electricity provider with their own specially shaped wall socket.
  • Linux is also an electricity provider with a differently shaped wall socket.
  • In this metaphor Wine is just some guys providing an adaptor that makes the electricity of the Linux electricity provider available in a wall socket that has the same shape as the Windows provider's.

Wine isn't breaking Windows copyright because it doesn't copy any of the Windows internals: instead it provides the contact points with the right "shape" for programs which were made to work in Windows to connect to to get their needs fullfilled, and then internally Wine does its own thing which is mainly using the Linux under it to do the heavy lifting.

Mind you, this simplification seriously understates just how complicate it is to implement what was implemented in Wine because the Windows interface is a lot more that just the shape of a wall socket.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

To add to your explanation

  • most people have the specialized Windows plug. Microsoft has invested a lot of money in making sure people ONLY have access to the Windows plug
  • Linux provides the same electricity signal that people need (maybe even better) but since people's Windows plug don't work on Linux's wall socket, they get the impression that Linux doesn't supply electricity.
  • WINE is just the adaptor which people put on their Window's plug. Now it easily fits on the Linux wall socket.
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's just easier to get old windows games running on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For some reason I just can't get warcraft 3 and StarCraft 1 running through wine

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Try Bottles! Available as flatpak so as long as you don'y have hate for flatpak, Bottles is there. All the normal flatpak benefit + a pretty great UI.

Not sure to WC3 suppose to run, but SC1 I owned on Bnet and I can tell, it works well with just a standard b.net install button in Bottles. SC2, HotS, D2R, D3 and so on I own run just fine, and fast too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I've tried lutris before never heard about Bottles. I'll give it a try. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

You can also check out Wargus for older Warcraft games

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Btw, anyone got the newest reshade to work? Even with the reshade-linux script, they just don't load, no matter which game. I had 4.something working for the longest time but since 5, nothing.

[–] [email protected] 151 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

sometimes i still can't believe i'm running every game i want on linux. like its still surprising and surreal to me.

thanks to all the contributors that made it possible for us to ditch microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Hey genuine question what does everyone use for office apps these days? I'm extremely over being charged a yearly fee to use word and excel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

@Lemonparty
Collabora Office, tied into an instance of nextcloud. So essentially like the Google office suite but self hosted. Then Libre office if I need to do anything offline.
@umbrella

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Unpopular opinion but I just use Google Sheets instead, because most of my spreadsheet usage is due to work and my employer uses Google Workplace

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

In addition to LibreOffice I often use standalone tools.

If I want a high quality document, I use LaTeX. Same for presentation slides. However, writing stuff in LaTeX is only worth the effort if the quality is needed. For non-important stuff I just use LibreOffice.

For calculations it depends on what I want to have in the end. If I just want to play with the data a bit, then LibreOffice Calc it is. However, if it is for something serious, I tend to write script files, or even full programs, that do the processing. That way computation and data is in separate files, and the used formulas are clearly visible and easy to debug.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I've been trying OnlyOffice recently - seems pretty nice so far.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I have been a user since the 90s. Back then it was still called StarOffice.

Its feature set differs from that of MS Office, and its performance could be (a lot!) better, but I strongly prefer the LibreOffice user interface, and the features that matter to me (like CSV import) are way better in LibreOffice. However, LibreOffice does not have all the features of MS Office, and some are notably worse (for instance auto-fill in spreadsheets, where Excel is way better at guessing the next value).

Sadly it's not only a matter of preference, because file exchange between different office suites is not flawless. MS Office and LibreOffice don't agree 100% on how to load each other's files...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I felt the same way, after dual booting linux and windows for a while, I stopped booting into windows so decided to just wipe both drives and do a raid0 install of linux. Finally I got to messing with games expecting to have to tweak settings and everything but nope it just booted up. even better running on raid0 now I dont even see load screens with games like starfield.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Dual booted for the longest time, until sometime last year. Windows partition is still there, but it's been long enough that I've forgotten the password. 😳

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