Orban introduces new mandatory subject in Hungary schools: How to be an ass just for the sake of being an ass 101.
this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2024
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I have an easy way to rectify this:
- Suspend Hungary in their EU voting rights for limiting rule of law. Stop the payments for the same reason.
- Suspend Hungary in Schengen due to Hungary making it easier for Russians to come to the EU.
- Suspend Hungary in NATO as they obviously prefer alliance with Russia.
To suspend Hungary (your first point) legally requires unanimity of all EU countries aside from the one to be censured. (Article7)
Unfortunately Slovakia has recently elected a pro putin govt who will now block any attempt to deal with Orban.
There was a short window between the end of the Polish far right PiS being in power and Slovakia changing leadership when it could have been done. Unsurprisingly Orban was very compliant during that period and as soon as he regained an ally is back to his old tricks.
There is no legal way to ~do~ what you suggest
Edit, missed a word
What happens if you censure both?
Nothing. You can only invoke article 7 against a specific country, and with 2 there's insufficient votes to invoke article 7 against either. You can't do a "twofer".
You have to remember this was considered an unthinkable nuclear option when the treaties were draw up. That two countries could both diverge so far from the EUs ethos would horrify the (possibly naive) original founders.
As that worn quip goes
" they did nazi this coming"
That’s fucking embarrassing, Hungary.
They've been picking losers since the Hapsburgs decided to keep it in the family, why stop now?
There must be some sort of way to kick Hungary out of the EU for this shit.
That sounds appealing, but is that what the Kremlin wants?
Why would the Kremlin want Hungary to be kicked out of the EU?
Divide and conquer. They see the EU as an enemy, so they try to weaken it.
I think its worth considering the possibility.
Yeah, it certainly does not. It's their most valuable asset in the EU 🤷
That was my thought.
Russia doesn't need Hungary specifically, Russia needs someone in the Eu, to destroy from inside, and give internal info and passports.
If there would be a way to kick Hungary out, most of its current support would go to some other country, nowadays Slovakia has a Russian friendly government, between 2017 and 2021 Czechia had a definitely not Russia spy as prime minister and a lot of other countries has more or less successful far right parties with russian ties. There are a lot other options, not as convenient as the Hungarian messed up captured state, but still an acceptable replacement