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I've recently gotten into reading. I realised how much I love fiction, and a couple of tropes. So I'm here asking maybe some of you know any books that have them.

I love it when the story focuses more on world building rather than character. The theory crafting I can do in my head, or just before I sleep, is priceless.

Here I'll contradict myself by saying a character development related point, but the more important one. I'd like to read more works that show some mysterious big-bad first as a rivalry, later as a friend. They soften up with the MC and we they become friends or allies or whatever. We get to see a BBEG of sorts's friendly and weak side. I get that it's a bit childish, but I lost my mind of how cool of a character they made the first time I read it. Now, it was in a manga, so I'd love to read an example that made this best or first.

Thank you in advance, even if you just name some genres or authors.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recommend Locked Tomb series. It has both of youre asking for. Also, such badass protagnist and overall great writing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I looked it up the the first this I saw was "Doctor Sex". Peak fiction. Anyways, do I read the "half" books (The Mysterious Study of Doctor Sex, As Yet Unsent, The Unwanted Guest)?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry maybe you found the wrong series. I'm talking about series with the books-Gideon The Ninth, Harrow The Ninth and Nona The Ninth. Its written by Tamsyn Muir

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Holy shit. I just looked up what you're talking about. I didnt even read those. Those are some random side stories. Start with Gideon The Ninth. Excuse me while I read Doctor Sex now :D

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dungeon Crawler Carl and The Bobiverse are both amazing series that are worth a glance at.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

These are probably not what I'm looking for. But now I know where that one wierd first person rogue like came from. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Expanse by James SA Corey does a fantastic job of world building as well as character building. I highly highly recommend them. That and/or Dune.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Dune is a big no-no for me. The movies were so incredibly shit. And I've got so many great options for what I'm looking for, that a sc-fi romance just doesn't fit on my to-read list. Thank you still.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I haven't read him, but Brandon Sanderson has been mentioned to me more than once for his world-building. I've heard good things about Tress of the Emerald Sea, though I don't know how world-buildy it is compared to his other books.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Someone else is also pitching me on Brandon Sanderson. He must have made something good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I was also going to pitch his books, and I haven't even read all of them. They are very solid fantasy books, and he just keeps writing bangers at an unusual pace. My favorite part of books is magic systems, and all the flavors they come in, idk if that is something you've found you like yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Read the Wheel of Time, talk to you in 3 years

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I heard the name once, but I don't know anythung about it. Why? what

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not the same guy, but I started reading it a few weeks ago and just finished the fourth book last night. It does a pretty good job at both world building and character development in my opinion (though it really shines across books). In my opinion, the first book does a good job of introducing new elements of the setting at a good pace, and uses it's characters who know little of the world to impart how special/rare some of the things are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Still donno why be said see you in 3 years. Is it that long?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Oh, yeah, they have a reputation for being long. There are 14 books total I believe, and each is pretty long.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time

That said, I was able to read the first the books with an average speed of a book a week (though I spent a lot of the weekends to do so), so I wouldn't say they're crazy huge books.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's a 14 book series. It's generally acclaimed for its world building and depth, but understood to be a bit of a slog in the middle. The original author, Robert Jordan, died while writing the 12th book, and Brandon Sanderson was chosen by Jordan's widow to finish the story using notes left by Jordan for his successor. I never finished it myself but I understand these final works were very well received, and Sanderson is a great author himself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Empire of man series. Main character starts as a twat almost nobody really likes, then he gets better.

It’s military science fiction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Man

At bottom of wiki article is link to read first book for free

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "Death Gate Cycle" by Weiss and Hickman has all that. Great worldbuilding, bad guys that become friends, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I'm sold. I love myself some high fantasy, and you don't have to tell me twice about the last part. I won't miss a chance to experience that again. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You can try the "Malazan book of the fallen" series. It's very fast paced which I like but probably isn't everyone's cup of tea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Discworld series has nice world building, however the individual books focus on different characters for telling a story and getting to know that world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm partial to Ankh-Morpork and the City Watch for some reason ;)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If anyone is interested in Discworld for world building, then I'd recommend skipping the first few books. They were written before Terry Pratchett had a good grasp on the world and the characters. They can be worth coming back to later, but I definitely recommend not starting with them. "Wyrd Sisters" and "Guards! Guards!" are pretty good entry points.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I would even go further back, and recommend Equal Rites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon.

First in a series called the Cemetery of Forgotten Books.

A young boy named Daniel is taken by his bookstore-owning father to the Cemetery of Forgotten Books.

By tradition, first time visitors are allowed to select one book for which they will become a lifetime guardian.

Daniel chooses "Shadow of the Wind" by Julian Carax and quickly becomes enthralled by it. As he tries to find out more about the book and the author, he finds that someone is systematically collecting all of Carax's works and burning them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll leave the thrillers for my dad. Still, I feel the love in this reply, so I'm sorry. I don't think I'll be reading this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Not really a thriller, more of a mystery + a love story. It's a fantastic read. Especially considering it was translated from Spanish.

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