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Guðlaugur Þór Þórðarson, the Minister for the Environment and Natural Resources of Iceland, has announced a new regulation that requires toilets to be labelled based on facilities rather than gender. This change follows a query from Andrés Ingi Jónsson, a Pirate Party MP who has been advocating for the issue since 2020.

The regulation mandates that gender-neutral toilets must be provided wherever separate women’s and men’s toilets are available.

“For those of us who haven’t experienced it personally, this might seem minor, but it’s crucial for people to know whether they can access a toilet at work or school. It really matters,” says Andrés Ingi Jónsson, highlighting the importance of this change.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just do individual bathrooms you can close. Everyone prefers them anyway, why wouldn't you want to have an entire space you can lock down and do your business and move at your own pace?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because that takes a lot of space. You still need to do plumbing. It's just easier to do cubicles and have shared sink instead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Wtf are you taking about😂 it’s just 2 bathrooms. 1 occupant each. It’s not complicated. Turn the men’s into single use and the women’s into single use. Simple. This is only a problem for venues that want to heard people into bathrooms like cattle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Grocery stores do it, I think its manageable. Beats the hell out of a possible voyeurism/sex-pesty lawsuit or political grandstanding it inspires

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Stop making separate gendered toilets. Toilets just need floor to ceiling stalls with actual doors. No urinals (yuck) and then a row of sinks.

This is already the case in practically any Swedish white collar workplace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Iceland actually does have a lot of those floor to ceiling stalls which is great

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

All this moral panic about gendered bathrooms had been debunked ages ago. The TERF propaganda machine just kept throwing more and more fearmongering our way. It is good to hear that some countries take steps against this neo-segregation insanity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No urinals (yuck)

As a man with a weak bladder, trust me, urinals are necessary for speed purposes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Urinals can be spaced more closely than regular toilets. Only problem is that women (or anyone with female-appearing anatomy) don't have a nice way of using them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unless you're really into wiping piss of toilet seats you want there to be some urinals.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or have education about how much piss goes everywhere when you pee. In Germany most men sit to pee most of the time, it is a cultural issue and can be changed. That said, if you do urinals, make them stalls too, I don't want to chat with my pee neighbour.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Germany most men sit to pee most of the time

[x] doubt.

I don't even think that is true for the majority of men in their own home and it certainly is not for public toilets.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/sitzpinkler-german-men-pee-sitting-down/

"62% of German men sit down “every time” or “most times” when they go pee. That’s more than men in 12 other countries surveyed worldwide."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

40% is not most men in Germany. They just have the most of the countries looked at. Two very different things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of all 13 countries, Germany was the one where most men sat down “every time” to urinate (40%).

See, not most men.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How did I know you are going to point that out. So smart.

Here is the part of the comment above you, that you disagreed with:

In Germany most men sit to pee most of the time.

Emphasis in bold courtesy of mine to help with reading comprehension to what comes next, namely the quote from the link I gave you:

Of all 13 countries, Germany was the one where most men sat down “every time” to urinate (40%). Add those who do so “most times” (22%), and you get the result shown on the map.

40 + 22 is 62. Which is most men.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah and the times they won't sit down is when you're in a public toilet without an urinal. Which is exactly what we were talking about.