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If you want a easy, reliable and cross-platform way to share files between computers, phones, etc, it may be of your interest.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You might want to check out Magic Wormhole
The "Warp" flatpak uses it. Might serve as a nice backend for your project!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My files got corrupted when I used it, but that was a while ago

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I don't like it being HTTP based and TLS (certificate?), nor I am a fan of flutter and the other 70-ish dependencies (https://github.com/localsend/localsend/blob/main/app/pubspec.yaml).

KDEConnect is great and does way more than file sharing, I'll stick with that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i just use

python -m http.server

Easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

LocalSend is nice because you can set it up in a push configuration instead of a pull. I used to set up a server like that where I had the file, then go over where I wanted it and navigate and pull it and wait for it to download. But with auto-accept on on LocalSend I can push the file and by the time I get over to where I sent it it is mostly there already.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Stupid question from an ignorant fool: how does this differ from just using bluray to transfer files?


EDIT: GOD I AM AN IDIOT I MEAN BLUETOOTH. BLUETOOTH. XDDD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Answering the question you meant to ask, blueray is a physica... just kidding.

LocalSend is basically like bluetooth file sharing over WiFi. Bluetooth, especially the fallback 2.0 is notoriously slow and short ranged. The situation got better with BLE, 5.0 and Long Range. Still, both devices need to speak BT. Ap*le's iOS is well known to ignore BT file sharing capabilities while implementing own proprietary solutions. On desktop, the situation is still bad. I once tried to send a file between two Windows machines via BT, and it was a horrible user experience. LocalSend (and similar) fix this by implementing cross platform apps and using readily available API's to share files with few clicks and reasonably high speed between a plethora of devices. I guess, if you don't have the aforementioned problems, you won't need LocalSend et al.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

especially the fallback 2.0 is notoriously slow and short ranged.

So that's why my Bluetooth file transferring back in like 2015 was slow as balls! I also assumed it was the devices I had. Lol. Which is weird considering I could have sworn I had also done BT file transfers with other devices previously and it seemed a lot faster. (None of these were Apple devices).

Ap*le's iOS is well known to ignore BT file sharing capabilities while implementing own proprietary solutions.

Rude.

[Everything else you said]

That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for explaining. :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It does work over network, so you don't need any physical connection apart from being in the same network. Therefore, it's easier, faster, less complicated, and more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I mistyped. Lmao. I meant BLUETOOTH. Haha.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Burning physical bluray discs can take quite a lot of time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I meant BLUETOOTH. Lol. I mistyped. xD

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also disk drives are basically non-existant these days. But to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mistyped. I.meant Bluetooth. Lol.

That being said, disk drives are extremely common if you build your own PC. 😈

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Idk about now... But BluRay Disk drives were quite expensive and not worth it, only worth it if you could burn Blu rays but those were even more expensives. So not common at all. Even physical games that could have benefit from then used just multiple DVDs instead, like the Flight Simulator 2020 which uses likes 10 DVDs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You said disk drives, not specifically bluray disk drives. The former is not entirely uncommon yet, though the latter may be. Although in retrospect it may have been obvious by context that that's what you were talking about. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well actually you got confused as I am not the guy who did say "disk drives", that's somebody else.

In any case I understood you as talking about the non BluRay indicating they are common in builds.

I mentioned BluRays because that's the only one that nowadays could make sense to have and could be common to add to a build, but not even that is being used commonly due to being expensive and basically only used by movies and those are usually played elsewhere.

I honestly don't think most people would bother building a new PC with a normal disk drive, they are completely useless. New games/software/video/music are digital or use BluRays, except music I guess. And any other uses has been replaced with external USB drives or other mediums as those are better in many ways. So unless you have some specific need it's worthless and if you have a need a external USB disk drive is more practical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well actually you got confused as I am not the guy who did say “disk drives”, that’s somebody else.

Whoops! Sorry. ^^"

I mentioned BluRays because that’s the only one that nowadays could make sense to have and could be common to add to a build, but not even that is being used commonly due to being expensive and basically only used by movies and those are usually played elsewhere.

I honestly don’t think most people would bother building a new PC with a normal disk drive, they are completely useless. New games/software/video/music are digital or use BluRays, except music I guess. And any other uses has been replaced with external USB drives or other mediums as those are better in many ways. So unless you have some specific need it’s worthless and if you have a need a external USB disk drive is more practical.

I wouldn't say they're completely useless, but I can agree with enough of what you're saying to at least respond with a simple "that's fair." :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I've been using this for a long time now, and it's godsend.
Sending files between iOS, Android, Windows, Linux and other devices is great!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There are many good sollutions for this use case. Personally I use Warpinator — it comes pre-installed with Linux Mint and just works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Magic wormhole is way more flexible

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Works perfect for me. Have been using for like a year

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Syncthing is nice, but Localsend has a more user-friendly interface.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its more convenient to send just the specific files i need rather than syncing a whole folder. I use syncthing to keep folders in sync between computers and local send to send stuff from my phone to my computer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I guess. I keep a dir synced between my desktop and my phone. If I want a file transferred, I just drop it there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@avidamoeba @edu4rdshl one sends one file one syncs a lot of files

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Some in this thread said that LocalSend can send many files, folders too. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Really great software. Works like a charm most of the time, the apps are quite okay, sends files locally. The first low-barrier solution to share stuff between wildly different devices since e-mail.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is there a reason I need something more than scp?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, you send files from/to your phone with an app that looks clean and modern

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have an app that does exactly that over scp...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What is that? I am curious because I haven't seen a competent SCP app for a few years

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just use AndFTP, with SSH. Works fine for local and remote file system navigation. I use it to move files android<->various linux machines at least weekly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It is good that such app works for you, but from what I've seen AndFTP is only available in Google Play store, and with bundled ad in the free version and paid otherwise. In comparison, LocalSend is none of that, and it is available on FDriod as well. LocalSend is also FOSS from protocol to the app through and through, and although SSH technology itself is secure, the security of the client depends. These are all the reasons to answer your question of "I need something more than scp". I use SSHFS myself too in the case of file backup, but also LocalSend for different scenarios such as "I need this video to be sent to my computer ASAP". If you are not convinced, feel free to overlook the project, that doesn't mean the app has zero use case

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t that horribly insecure? I have my doubts regarding privacy. LocalSend sends to the device directly, without an intermediary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure it only uses the intermediary to establish a P2P connection over WebRTC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

OnionShare. Its more secure and works even if the device isn't local

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Magic wormhole is faster

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

But it's really slow because it uses Tor. Sure, there are some use cases that require anonymity, but it doesn't make sense for most users.

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