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For those affected by the blocks, Signal recommends turning on its censorship circumvention feature.

Signal is being blocked in Venezuela and Russia. The app is a popular choice for encrypted messaging and people trying to avoid government censorship, and the blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Whispering? Believe it or not… jail.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Without having read the article, I guess it relates to the recent Signal blog post by Meredith Whittaker https://signal.org/blog/proxy-please/

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Why aren't they blocking telegram too? Is it because they use it a lot and can't block it or because it is compromised, so they have access when needed?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On April 16, 2018, the Russian government began blocking access to Telegram, an instant messaging service. The blocking led to interruptions in the operation of many third-party services, but practically did not affect the availability of Telegram in Russia. It was officially unblocked on June 19, 2020

Some say it was unblocked because they made a deal with Durov. Another opinion is that too many people and services including officials continued to rely on it even during the time it was blocked. Regardless, Telegram did a huge job on circumventing those blocks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telegram's chat aren't encrypted (in default settings atleast).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aren't e2e encrypted by default you mean.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

e2e are encrypted, but telegram chats are not e2e by default.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telegram chats are not e2e by design. There is no standard way to handle e2e in group chats, also most chats are public anyway. Chats are encrypted according to their docs. There are no unencrypted chats in telegram. It's just that people like e2e and call anything that is not e2e "not encrypted".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's just that people like e2e and call anything that is not e2e "not encrypted".

Perhaps you can share your knowledge with me. I don't know how chats that are not e2e are "encrypted". If telegram or other parties can access it, is it truly encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If telegram or other parties can access it, is it truly encrypted?

If the website creator and others can access the content hiding behind SSL/HTTPS, is it truly encrypted? It's similar with telegram, except they also don't keep the raw data on servers etc.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

They have not enabled the encryption by default and a common user can't understand that. That is why it isn't blocked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I think you are answering your question yourself. There's nothing you cannot fully block, unless it uses vpns/proxies and then you can try and block those too.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

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