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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Someone makes a cool original TV series.

Hollywood: what franchise can I shovel this director onto?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Good. It did not need to exist.

BSG was fine back in the day, aged terribly.
Galactica 1980 wasn't even good in 1980.

Reboot was excellent. Put a pin in it. Do something new.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm torn about this reboot of a reboot. On the one hand, the BSG reboot is one of my all-time favorites, although the religious overtones lessened my enjoyment. And just like another of my favorites, Star Gate, they now are in the talks to get a reboot. On the other hand, a reboot is about the only way we will get more from either franchise.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen that much of Battlestar, but I'm gonna hazard a guess that they couldn't think of a decent ending and came up with some esoteric bullshit, like 90% of sci-fi franchies?

I'm open to reboots, assuming they're done well of course, and don't get cancelled halfway through, like most sci-fi shows nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The BSG reboot really suffered from being a product of its era.

It's when shows were first really dipping their toes into telling an overarching narrative, but writer's rooms were still very much geared toward producing stories of the week. The result was that a lot of shows at the time would start incredibly strongly, set up a lot of really interesting premises, and then just meander along because the writers were literally making things up along the way and because there was no coherent plan.

Know how Game Of Thrones fell apart in the last couple of seasons when they outran the preplanned narrative of the books? That's how a lot of TV ended up in the early 2000s. BSG and Lost are probably the two most prominent examples from around that time, but it was a pretty common problem as the format of TV shows was starting to change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

BSG had the perfectly bleak, nihilistic ending in the middle of the last season but unfortunately continued on after that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Heroes lives in my brain as some of the absolute best TV ever made and some of the worst. The first season is incredible, the drop in quality afterwards is shocking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Most shows were like that at the time, but many could still prevail. Battlestar never fully clicked with me though. I found the space realism interesting but it kinda lacked a narrative focus and the "filler" stuff just did not catch my interest at all, and neither did the characters, which often at least can make up for it.

I definitely appreciate it when shows start with a fully written story already in mind though. But even then they're not safe of cancelling, because the start might be slower than viewers would like.

Ironically, I'd say the mentioned Stargate started out pretty weak and got better over time (excluding SGU). SG-1 had absolutely horrendous acting in the beginning and a lot of lacking filler episodes with plot points that never resurfaced again. I still vaguely remember one of the episodes where they planned to ambush the Goa'uld, but failed and Carter hysterically cries out for O'Neil in the most cringeworthy fashion.

My initial comment was more thinking of how sci-fi stuff tend to go all spiritual nuttery towards the end though, which is especially sad when they start out with such a heavy emphasis on science. Always feels like the writer wants to push some narrative.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

See, the weird religious pivot entirely ruined it for me, to the point where I can't tolerate even the good bits. But also, that is the case so much that I don't want to engage with a re-reboot anyway, so I'm weirdly in the same place.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I refuse to acknowledge it has been 20 years since the previous.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

fun fact - even if it got greenlit for pre-production today, the third BSG would be released about as long after the second ended, as the second came out after the first.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Honestly the 2004 reboot did age quite well for a SciFi show. No need to reboot it again just now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Oh my god, it's 20 years old?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Their space combat with proper inertial physics was really awesome. Loved that show, despite the flawed ending.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

So say we all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I watched both shows growing up. They are like very different from each other. I would be curious how another reboot would change it up.