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THIS is why you shouldn't do front line reporting. Abby Martin refused because of stuff like this. Don't give me surprised Pikachu face if you get hurt in a warzone.
this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2024
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ITT: a disturbing but unsurprising amount of people who think war crimes are good when the good guys do them.
Uhm.. if he dresses like a soldier, moves with the troops and is in no way distinguishable from the hordes of orcs that have to die, he is a valid target.
Soldiers are to wear uniforms to easily distinguish them from non combatants. So the opposing side can avoid targeting civilians on purpose. If the non combatants then start wearing military gear, they are wearing a bullseye.
The responsibility is on the defending force to keep their civilians safe. If you start placing air defence on hospitals and placing ammo stocks in schools you cannot claim targeting of civilians if the valid military targets are hit.
See, you start making a valid argument, but can't even make it to the end of the sentence before you stop pretending. Here, let me help you:
Uhm… if he dresses like a soldier, moves with the troops and is in no way distinguishable from ~~the hordes of orcs that have to die~~ other soldiers*, ~~he is a valid target~~ the drone operator cannot be held responsible for not distinguishing him.
Wearing camo is not enough to make you a target, even having a weapon doesn't necessarily make you a target. The responsibility of keeping civilians safe is not on the defender, it's on both sides. The take that doesn't defend warcrimes is that his death is an unfortunate accident caused by his failure to wear appropriate markings. Instead, the thread has his face crossed out as if he was on a hitlist.
Like, I get it. You finally have an outlet for your repressed chauvinism that won't get you called racist and you're letting yourself blow off some steam. But for fucks sake have some decorum about it, you're acting like Americans.
I was never pretending. I am not the one defending the death of a Russian propaganda officer. And trying to make this guy out as anything else could be construed as pretending.
The sentiment I conveyed (the one you seem to take offense with) is very much the way Ukranians look at the situation. They where invaded by an horde that loots, rapes and pillages anything left after their war machine is done with an area.
You again seem to by trying to minimize this guy's mistakes. He made himself indistinguishable from Russian soldiers.. so he is a fair target.. nothing more to it. He probably wanted to seem "cool" or "legit" for his viewers. Showing them how life in the trenches is by experiencing it with the troops.... Well, now he got the full experience... Back to the motherland as cargo 200.
So go clutch your pearls elsewhere.
Exactly what i said in the first place - "ITT: a disturbing but unsurprising amount of people who think war crimes are good when the good guys do them."
I want to add: The guy dressed like active russian soldiers and he never had outward signs identifying him as press. The vehicles he drove in on the frontline were those of the russian army, so again no markings of being press. Thus Ukraine attacked some Russian soldiers, one of which happened to be an embedded war journalist. Afaik, Ukraine did not actively seek out or target a journalist.
This attack by Ukraine is not the same thing as the Israeli or Russian army targeting journalists. If a journalist clearly marked themselves or their vehicle as journalists, then they were more likely to be attacked by the Israeli/Russian army than if they hadn't. Russia has even been using guided missiles to target hotels because foreign press was staying there. And given that Russia actively targeted journalists, that might be an explanation as to why this russian propagandist did not mark himself as a journalist, but imo it's more likely that he just liked cosplaying as one of the boys.
Might also ne deliberate. Russian army told the guy to not dress as press, so he would get killed and Russia could cry "they killin press!"
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