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Let me start off by saying: If you just want to have a working system to do your thing with minimal effort, Slackware isn't for you (anymore).

Running Slackware today is like being gifted a Ford Model T by a weird, bearded museum curator, and then finding out that after some minor modifications and learning how to drive it, you can keep up with any modern car on the road. Only it has no ABS, AC, power steering, starter motor, crumple zones, airbags or seatbelts.

Most people who still run it (by any realistic estimate, fewer than 10000 people in the world now) have been running it since the 90's and follow the advice not to change a running system to the letter. So why should anyone who hasn't studied CompSci in Berkeley in the 90's try it today?

First of all, the most widely known criticism (it has no dependency resolution) is a bit of a misunderstanding. Slackware is different. The recommended installation method is a full installation, which means you install everything in the repository up front. That way, all dependencies are already resolved. And you have a system you can use equally well on a desktop or server. It uses 20GB but disk space is essentially free now.

What if you need something that isn't in the repo? Well, do whatever the fuck you want. Use Slackbuilds, which aren't officially supported but endorsed by Slackware's dev. Use Sbopkg, a helper script with dependency resolution very much like Arch's AUR helpers. Use the repos of sister distros like SalixOS that include dependency resolution. Install RPM packages. Install Flatpaks. Unpack tarballs wherever you want them. Go the old school way of compiling from source and administering your own system yourself. Slackware doesn't get in the way of whatever you want to do, cause there's nothing there to get in the way.

It's the most KISS distro that exists. It's the most stable one, too. Any distro-specific knowledge you acquire will stay valid for decades cause the distro hardly ever changes. It's also the closest to "Vanilla Linux" you can get. Cause there really isn't anything there except for patched, stable upstream software and a couple of bash scripts.

Just be mindful of the fact that Slackware is different (because the Linux ecosystem as a whole has moved on from its roots).
One example:
Up-to-date Slackware documentation isn't on Google, it's in text files written by the guy who maintained the distro for 31 years, which come preinstalled with your system. Or on linuxquestions.org, where the same guy posts, asks for input from users, and answers questions regularly.

It's still a competent system, if you have the time and inclination to make it work. And it's a blast from the past, where computing was about collaborating with like-minded freaks on a personal level. And I love that.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ngl i would try running the popular distros or a distro based on the popular distro

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I don't think you answered the question on the title. Why should most people not use Slackware?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Not all distros need to appeal to the mainstream. Diversity is a good thing in and of itself. In biology, it makes ecologies more robust, and there's no reason it shouldn't do the same for a software ecology.

The day when there's no longer a place in Linux for Slackware, Gentoo, LFS, Alpine, and other independent non-mainstream distros is the day I move to BSD.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I run slack with no gui as my webserver.

...been running it since 2001, guilty as charged lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'll always have fond memories of it. I learned a lot back in the day and swore by it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nice write up, and there's lots of choice so although Slackware was the first distro I ever ran, back in the 90s, it probably still has a place.

I'm interested in your take on security, without updates. Do you consider Slackware is secure?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Slackware gets security updates backported to its package versions, like Debian. If you run Slackware Current, it's actually just as active as Arch or Debian Sid. But for the software you install from outside of the repo, keeping it updated and secure is on you. I just use Flatpaks cause I'm a lazy Slacker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I was wondering how that worked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would Slackware be insecure? The only trust is in the package manager, which comes with checksums and a maintainer who has a good track record

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Vulnerabilities found in packages? The maintainers aren't omniscient.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I've used slackware more or less exclusively since the late 90s. It's been my daily driver since I deleted my windows XP partition some time in the early 00s. It's really all I know. Sure, I can find may way around a .deb based system when I have to. I'm also likely to apt install something, say yes to 50 dependencies, brick my system and have no idea what did it.

I love to tinker, and I love to learn. There's no shortage of either in Slackware, and that's why it's not for everyone. And I don't mean that in an "i use arch btw" way. I'm an intermediate user at best. I ask for help way more than I provide help. Lucky for me I've made some good friends in the Slackware community over the years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you're saying it's essentially BSD but wastes more of my time. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

I mean, I think it started as a BSD fork with a Linux kernel jammed in so... you're not far off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is my summary here correct?

  • slackware installs all software in its repos by default.
  • there's no package management or dependency resolution. If you want to delete something, or install something, you do that on your own
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It does also have third party repos such as sbopkg. This does a bunch of the movement for you when installing packages though you still need to manually install dependencies, BUT If you also add sboui which is a front end package resolution for dependencies then the process is much faster. I like the stability of Slackware, and also because its helps me get better for when I try the BSD since its very much like them as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

No. It has a package manager that installs, removes and upgrades packages.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

That’s good Slackware, don’t you waste that Slackware.

When they dropped reiser the lug broke up mostly along Debian or gentoo lines. It was hard to switch to Debian. You just can’t freely disconnect and connect things like in Slackware. You can’t just rpm2tgz some package and see if it works.

You can’t top the level of troubleshooting knowledge gained from using that distro.

About the only thing a Slackware user can’t tell you is how the system got installed. He just hit enter a bunch of times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah no, I've used Slackware back in the day... there is no getting back the whole weekends lost chasing dependencies and build dep reqs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Praise "Bob!" For we have Slack...ware! I actually haven't tried it yet because I'm a new user running fedora and Slackware still seems above my paygrade, but as an avowed SubGenius and linux user, it is my destiny to try. I have an old laptop to try it whenever it will bring me Slack, I'm saving this thread for information purposes, thank you. PRA'BOB

(For the uninitiated, the creator of Slackware is also a SubGenius and thus he created it in the name of "Bob.")

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