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The main place where the community gathers is our Discord server. Feel free to join there to ask questions, help out others, share cool things you created with Typst, or just to chat.
You ditch discord because it's bad for organizing projects
I ditched discord because it's proprietary
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I ditch it because it doesn't have End to end encryption in chats.
source: their T&C, and from the horses mouth the CEO
There's a growingly popular javascript schema validation library I avoid like the plague because its author was a whiny child on reddit who would get into flamewars with a bunch of people and then suddenly delete all his comments.
There's a lot of reasons not to trust a library with an unstable Code Owner.
I mean, good riddance, then?
My biggest issue with discord is that I'll get pinged, and have no fucking clue what pinged me.
Even if I get to the notification, often I don't get it right away, and often I don't open it right away either. So when I click on it, which, in most chat like apps will take you to that post/mention/whatever, it just takes me to the channel where I was mentioned. I'm left with no earthly idea why I'm in this chat or what was said that prompted the notification.
When I'm actively in discord, this works okay, since the mention which prompted the notification is likely the most recent thing said, or at least, close to it. The problem is, I'm almost never actively in discord.
I find that if I use discord all the time, which is rare, but happens.... Then I don't mind it so much. However, if I don't use discord all the time, then it's less than useless. I get notifications all the time and I just end up dismissing them because by the time I get to it, there's no chance I'll be able to figure out why I got the notification in the first place.
DMs and very very small communities are an exception, since the volume of messages is so low that generally, even if I get to the notification hours later, the message that prompted the notification is still one of the most recent handful of messages.
To this end, my list of pros and cons for discord are: Pros:
I feel like the people who run any given community, who are centered around discord, don't have problems with it, since they're pretty much always on it. For someone who isn't always plugged into discord, it's a horrendous nightmare of missed messages and notifications that take you somewhere unexpected. Any complaints about this generally falls on deaf ears because the people in charge, who picked that the community should be in discord, use it so much that they don't really have any issues with it.
Compare and contrast with a competing text-chat service like slack. In general slack doesn't do voice, so there's some differences there, but talking strictly about notifications and such: the notifications frequently arrive within seconds or minutes at most, when you select them, it takes you to the channel where the alert came from, scrolled to the post where the mention that prompted the notification is located, with the specific mention highlighted for clarity. From here, you can scroll back to get context, and scroll forward to see other replies. Contrasted with my experience in discord, you select the notification, you're taken to the channel where the notification originated, and scrolled to a random point in the recent history of the channel. Does this section contain the mention? Maybe, but probably not. Nothing is highlighted. Good luck.
Discord sometimes pings you for sales of their products!!
Not defending it, but discord has an inbox menu, where you can see a list of messages that pinged you and jump to any of those messages. It is a button on the top right corner to the left of the question mark and to the right of the search field (desktop).
I've been using that, and bluntly, that's great, but why, when I click on a notification, does it not do the same thing?
Ditchcord!
Discord is only convenient for those already using it everyday. For everyone else this is a high barrier to entry, especially when you actually care what software you use.
You could say this about virtually any modern social media platform. Hell, half the reason I'm on Lemmy is because Reddit hates me if I try to look at something without signing in first and then hates me even more for signing in and participating in a community.
Discord isn't any more difficult to enter than Reddit (or Lemmy, for that matter). At the worst, I'd consider it a modernization on IRC with Microsoft Characteristics. I wouldn't call that high at all. At its best, its a great live chat space for niche interest groups to organize.
My brother in Christ, this is a Linux community. High barriers to entry is literally what you signed up for.
Won't consider all those people inviting to join and wanting to give help, with community written wikis that only this OS has actually useful a high barrier.
Why so much hate post about discord lately? What's happened?
This is not lately, it's been happening for a long time.
Nothing in particular happened.
I'm gonna explain the meme: Discord started as a gaming communication software, after some time they expanded and discord servers are not used just for gaming. This leads to some software projects being coordinated in discord servers. However, discord is not a tool designed for this purpose, and because of that, OP had the reaction of this meme.
The disadvantages of discord when used as a community for software projects (as opposed to traditional forums, for example) are as follows (not an exhaustive list):
Most importantly, discord doesn’t get indexed by search engines. So you can’t just Google a problem and a link to a discord message with the answer will appear.
That's true. But also Google's algorithm has been circling the toilet for years now. So even if you were expecting a Stack Exchange esque reference to a problem in a Discord server, there's a much better chance that you'd get a bunch of SEO garbage inside the first couple of pages purely thanks to degradation in Google's internal optimization.
If anything, I'd consider Discord's opaqueness a benefit, as it keeps a lot of the spamming and automated manipulations out of these spaces. A good channel will have a Git space associated with it pinned to the main feed. And an active community will often have its own Wiki or equivalent to help organize FAQs for new users.
Its annoying in so far as its more transient than the older school repositories. But that's the direction the entire internet has been moving for the better part of a decade. Not really the fault of Discord.
Well, if all the good answers are behind non-indexable discord servers, of course search engines will be filled with SEO crap. If I Google "how to parse HTML with regex" stack overflow comes as the first entry.
Wikis and FAQs are not at all unique to discord.
If the only benefit is that "it's not reachable, therefore spammers won't spam", then it is shit. If an information source is not reachable, might as well not exist. If you don't want spammers, you make things read-only, or whitelist/blacklist system or any other system.
Wikis and FAQs are not at all unique to discord.
No. And I'll happily concede that the above is annoying af when the Wiki/Web FAQ should be the primary source for info. But Google should be able to search/cache/serve that kind of info and clearly seems incapable of doing so anymore.
If the only benefit is that “it’s not reachable, therefore spammers won’t spam”, then it is shit.
I don't think that's the only benefit of Discord, by a long shot. I just consider it a fringe benefit, relative to the older "Here's a link to a Slashdot post from 2001 that's got 5000 comments, 90% of which are now gibberish that's piled in thanks to the high Google index."