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I had two reasons, the first is because i found it way too easy to spend on my card without thinking, and the second because I wanted to regain a bit of privacy alongside everything else I'm doing. Ive set it up in my bank that on payday, an amount of my salary automatically goes to the bills account, some goes to long term savings, some to short term savings, then the rest I take out in cash.

It really does change my perception of spending I think: Ive found myself not buying things because I didnt want to break a note and carry change. I can physically see how much I have left. I can take £20 to the pub and leave when its finished. Plus it feels really good knowing every single transaction isnt stored forever. I have a small amount of money on a contactless ring for emergencies like a bus fare or somewhere that unexpectedly only takes card.

Is anyone else still predominantly using cash day to day?

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (18 children)

“Is anyone else still predominantly using cash day to day?”

Yes. Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm nor a cash-only convert, but I have some anecdotal evidence for you.

I've visited Boston five times in the past thirty years. Every single time I used my debit card at Thanuel Hall for food, my card was later used for fraud. Always caught and never a big inconvenience beyond replacing my card, but still not ideal. I only ever use cash there now.

Online shopping, before the Amazon monopoly on e-commerce, my card would get compromised every few months.

Now I use privacy.com for all transactions that allow it, and its amazing how often those cards are stolen. Thanks to the way the service works, the stolen cards are useless to scammers or thieves, but my declined transaction filter has a few charges declined each month.

My point being that if you want to avoid fraud, and you can do it, cash is king.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah I always use throwaway cards from my bank online, game changer. Even if just free trials so they can't charge me if I accidentally don't cancel

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is all perfect when you live in a responsible country where people pay their taxes. Instead, when you live in a place where paying your taxes is seen as something stupid, the less cash, the less space for tax evaders.

I loved it when COVID came and the government started giving all these businesses owners (bars, hairdressers, etc) a subside based on the profits they declared the year before COVID and they all went mad because they were getting 600€/month (which, ironically is the amount they declared to have earned monthly the year before COVID).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You do understand that most tax evasion happens a ultra wealthy and mega corps level, not peasants buying food and beer for cash?

And this tax evasion happens with in our banking system, money too big for cash.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I do. But so what? Since they are small businesses we should let them evade taxes? Tax evasion is a problem, and I agree we should go against all those billionaires, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the smaller evaders.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of cash only businesses in the UK that engage in this, although of course just because a business is cash only, doesn't mean they're a tax dodge.

IMO the two things are separate: it should be the tax office that does audits to catch this. It's not very hard to see a vape shop that makes £500 a month with two top model BMWs outside might be dodgy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I agree. But I'm not sure it's possible to have enough tax auditors to combat something that is so prevalent in my country.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm starting to use more cash for daily spendings. The rise of surveillance pricing is terrible, better to hide qt least some of information from my bank.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (11 children)

I'm finding supermarkets locking their regular prices behind an app or loyalty card is getting out of control. Out of all the major supermarkets, ONLY Aldi has nothing of the sort currently.

Tesco and Sainsbury's will often have a £3 item that costs £6 without their loyalty card. Of course it's £3 in every other shop: it's not a special offer for members, it's a punishment price for those who don't give away their data.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

A nice way to understand how much your data costs

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I visited the UK back in 2022 and I was pretty baffled at how you can universally "tap to pay". We visited a pub on the coast of Dorset where they wouldn't even accept cash as a mean of payment. All in all it was nice, because it meant not having to deal with a foreign currency at all, we spent 10 days just using electronic payment, so as a tourist I think it was a good experience.

In Germany, where I live, you're basically getting nowhere without cash, it's still very difficult to eat out or buy small food items like bread or a sandwich. There's also a culture of paying cash for many things, including pricier items like a second hand car! Shop cashiers usually don't even blink if you try to pay with a 100€ bill (except if you're coming super early and they don't have change available yet). It's not unusual for me to end up drawing a quarter to half my monthly salary in cash.

I first disliked it when I moved from France, but now I think it's actually good for the society. You always have some change to tip a waiter or give to a beggar, a coin for the cart at the supermarket, get something from a vending machine... Also I live in a very quiet area so getting mugged is very unlikely, making it not so scary to carry cash around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Canada has universal tap to pay also, but what surprised me about the UK—at least in the London area—was how quick it was? The payment processing was near-instantaneous. In Canada, I think the machines make a phone call behind the scenes to a bank or something? There's a significant delay before it goes through.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I find it interesting that Germany is so far behind when it comes to IT and modernization. It's like you're stuck in 1990, even though you're surrounded by countries that have used chip payment cards since the early 2000s and contactless payments since the early to mid 2010s. Nobody here in Denmark has touched a fax machine in the last 15-20 years, and apparently Germans still fax things sometimes to this day??

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

hey don't belittle technological advancements in germany, people here at are the forefront of innovation: https://simple-fax.de/fax-ki

:'D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I agree, cash is fun in Germany. I think it really helps that the 1 and 2 euro coins are available and used in circulation. It was so nice going into the Späti and buying a beer with a single coin.

Change feels unnecessary in the States since the highest denomination that's widely circulated is the quarter dollar. There are dollar coins, but they are hardly ever used.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Haha don't get me started with US coins, I also have a fun story there: we arrived fresh off JFK Airport in NYC and headed to our rental apartment in Bedford-Stuyvesant Brooklyn. It was pretty far from the a subway station so we got a connecting bus to get us closer.

The next day, we thought of taking the same bus line to head to Manhattan, except our party of four ended up being expected to pay 4x $2.75 in a machine inside the bus... in coins. That's 44 quarters. Yup, don't have that on day 2 of my stay. So we walked 6 blocks.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, even the buses and vending machines and car park meters and public toilets have tap to pay. It is certainly very convenient but I think it does encourage spending more, and of course it means literally everything you do is tracked. Luckily I've found that most places still do accept cash but there are definitely a few who don't.

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