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I had two reasons, the first is because i found it way too easy to spend on my card without thinking, and the second because I wanted to regain a bit of privacy alongside everything else I'm doing. Ive set it up in my bank that on payday, an amount of my salary automatically goes to the bills account, some goes to long term savings, some to short term savings, then the rest I take out in cash.

It really does change my perception of spending I think: Ive found myself not buying things because I didnt want to break a note and carry change. I can physically see how much I have left. I can take £20 to the pub and leave when its finished. Plus it feels really good knowing every single transaction isnt stored forever. I have a small amount of money on a contactless ring for emergencies like a bus fare or somewhere that unexpectedly only takes card.

Is anyone else still predominantly using cash day to day?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I would consider paying with cash again IF $100 bills weren't so much trouble.

It's hard to get a $100 bill. ATMs just don't spit them out. Many places refuse to take them. It's just hard to carry over $100 in cash without quickly having your wallet explode in size.

Back in the day $100 was like caring $1,000 now. You could get a lot done with $20 bills... You can burn through the majority of $100 just going to dinner and I also have no desire to manage all that cash at my house or hit up an ATM every other day.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I regularly consider doing this. Obviously it is great from a privacy perspective. But I hate dealing with cash, especially change. With cards I just have one thing in my wallet and it just works forever. My bank account is automatically charged at the end of the month. With cash I need to keep refilling my wallet and carry around annoying change.

I would love to have something digital but also private (like Monero). But so far I have been picking convenience over privacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Change is easy to deal with. Just give it to the people begging.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Been thinking of trying this. Thing is nobody uses cash anymore around here (Nordics). In supermarkets I know for sure I can use cash, but restaurants, bars or small business it's going to be hit and miss. I guess I'd have to endure the awkwardness of asking in every single place if they take cash or not

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Businesses aren't legally required to accept cash?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I actually started with it this week. It is partially due to privacy but also because I lost a sense for value. It is really easy to press a button online and pay say 20 euro. Not that I am irresponsible with money but the numbers on your bank account feel so meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

All day, everyday! Freedom over convenience!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Apparently there has been an uptick in people using cash in the UK because it helps with budgeting. Which has become more necessary since 60% of inflation started coming from corporate profiteering and four people became able to outcompete twenty million others in the market.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Some credit cards offer 2% cash back... (Not points) So it's hard to give that up when you get 2% off for just about every dollar you spend. Why wouldn't you put every dollar on card you would normally spend.

This doesn't work well if you are paying interest...

If you're fiscally savvy and don't overspend and can pay your balance in full every month and are not paying interest, this is a strong vote for choosing over cash.

However, without that....I see no benefit and would use more cash for all reasons in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

This is sort of a scam though. Credit cards give rewards, but then charge the business for the processing fees. So the business needs to raise prices to cover the fees. So really no one is getting that 2% except for the card network. And if you don't use a card you lose 2%.

It is basically a protection racket. "It would be a shame if you didn't use our credit card and had to pay 2% more everywhere"

Yes, I know it is complicated. Handling cash also costs non-trivial amounts. I know that the EU has limits on fees (and that is why basically no credit cards have rewards there). I also know that some businesses see the fee as more of a marketing costs because higher spenders tend to use cards and people tend to spend more on cards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Out in NYC, the bodegas all have a little plaquard saying that either 1: listed prices include a 2% credit card fee and you can save by using cash, or 2: listed prices may not match your final charge because they add a 2% fee on top for credit cards.

Which is the same thing effectively but it can be sometimes confusing if you're trying to watch for the fee.

Anecdotally, I have sometimes noticed the cashier will say a price, and then say a slightly different price when I pull out the card. So it's not like they always apply the fee regardless. At least some of the time anyway.

Not universal of course. I don't remember if that's also true for grocery stores, and it's probably not the case for big chains but honestly I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You're also paying in the data they sell on you

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well that's the way it should be. If they're selling your data, they should compensate you for that in some way. Then it becomes a personal decision as to how much it matters to you.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@shortwavesurfer @smeeps

The problem is, that none of the grocery stores or street markets or supermarkets in my area accept Monero 🤷

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While it is most definitely true that they do not accept it directly, they very likely do accept it with gift cards, which you can purchase with Monero. That is how I have been buying my groceries for the past year and a half.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When I lived in Europe and North America, this is also how I bought most my groceries.

Except I used bitcoin because the monero gift card vendors are terribly insecure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Please elaborate on your claim of them being terribly insecure. It's not something I've noticed, but I could be missing something.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm interested in this, I did buy a small amount but struggling to spend it anywhere? Even when I bought a Trezor hardware wallet I had to use LTC... I know I can pay for Mullvad with it when my subscription expires in two years lol

I also can't find any no-KYC place to buy it now LocalMonero is closed.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Xmrbazaar.com is a place to request a product/service or sell a product/service for monero. Here is my store for example. https://xmrbazaar.com/user/shortwavesurfer2009/ and https://haveno-reto.com is where to buy/sell since LM is gone. Please note you need at least 0.11xmr to use it though as a security deposit you get back after a successful trade

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I rarely use cash. Nearly everything I spend is on supermarket and they know exactly what I buy because we're forced to use their "loyalty" programs anyway.

Then traveling: dealing with other currencies, coming home with unspendable money. And there's no interest on cash lying around.

But I hate the tendency for places to not accept cash at all, there should still be a choice.

One bonus is that I keep finding money on the streets in countries that love cash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

In what country are you forced to use loyalty cards?

I've never had a cashier tell me I couldn't pay without a loyalty cars. Usually I ask them to swipe their card, which 80% of the time they do because they get free gas or whatever

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Never stopped using cash. It works, is less trackable and most importantly is accepted for exchange of goods even outside of your typical store front. Say when buying hay or straw for horses and paying then and there.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

The cash I have on hand comes exclusively from playing pub gigs in a band. That is still very much a cash-driven economy where I am. When I accumulate enough, I usually wind up spending it on music gear, so I don't think this hobby of mine is major wealth-builder. But while many businesses are moving away from cash, it seems music stores are used to people like me and still allow fairly hefty cash transactions.

The other day I was settling my tab at the pub and the guy hands me a machine. I say, I'll pay by cash thanks. He says really?!? Dude, you literally just handed me cash for the gig tonight. Oh yeah…

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the US, I've started paying in cash to combat the aggressive tip buttons (your options are: 20%, 30%, 40%, or Other). With cash, I feel free to provide a reasonable tip for whatever service and they see it and appear appreciative, even if it's not the 20% the little tip screen attempts to strong arm you into.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can press "no" or "custom."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Handling cash is less convenient than a couple taps.

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