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TLDR: After the fantastic Trilium Notes entered maintenance mode, a significant group of community members (including myself) have committed to moving the project forward.
🎁 An official backward-compatible TriliumNext Notes release should be available soon!

If you haven't heard of Trilium Notes (Or TriliumNext Notes), you should check it out. For an example of what TriliumNotes looks like, you can check out the slightly outdated screenshot tour. Trilium Notes is IMO the best truly open, and truly libre note taking software that exists.

Originally coming from OneNote, I've tried many...many alternatives, and it has been a joy switching to TriliumNotes.

🍻 This free (gratis), open-source, self-hosted, personal wiki/note software offers all the following with no nags, no paywall and no restricted features - you get all the goodies up front!

  • Note cloning (notes can exist in multiple locations at once)
  • Interactive note visualization maps
  • Various note types (canvas, mermaid diagrams, web view, relation map, code, etc)
  • Various bulk folder import and export options (HTML, Markdown, Text)
  • Revision history (and recent changes view)
  • Scripting (Very powerful - automate tagging, deletion, etc)
  • Full documented ETAPI for external scripting or development
  • Browser extension for web clipping
  • Fast fuzzy search & advanced search (search by tags, parent note, size, etc)
  • Sharing notes with a public url with a simple toggle
  • Encrypted notes
  • Extensive and versatile note tagging (inheritable tags, relationship tags, etc)
  • Note note tabs, zen mode, multi-note views
  • Note archiving
  • Note linking and embedding (embed notes inside other notes)
  • Full wysiwyg editor (with markdown and math syntax completion) - external editors supported
  • Unlimited note nesting
  • Daily note journaling feature
  • Extendable with widgets, custom plugins, themes, scripts, etc
  • Customizable keyboard shortcuts (and VIM keyboard bindings)
  • Automatic note syncing to server (or other clients that are setup in 'server' mode)
  • Automatic backups
  • Cross platform (Windows, Mac, Linux, Flathub, Docker - very simple compose)
  • Good documentation, Matrix support chat, Github Discussion forums, awesome lists

The main downsides are:

  • The mobile (android) app currently is only for composing notes (not for reading other notes on the server). You must use the mobile browser version (which works quite well) to get a 'fuller' experience. (The new TriliumNext project does plan to improve the mobile experience).
  • Only one user per server is currently supported (this is a high priority for the TriliumNext team)
  • Some people don't like database note taking software since they prefer files in a directory, but this isn't an issue for me since I can automate the export of TriliumNotes (using the api) and save the notes to Nextcloud or my local file system for easy viewing.

πŸ“’ If this project interests you, you can follow the progress on github and get involved if you would like to see this project flourish! There are teams to help with development, issue triaging, documentation, testing, etc.

πŸ—³οΈ If you'd like to vote on the new TriliumNext logo, you can do that too!

Happy Note Taking!)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you announcing a release or just posting to get some eyes on the project? I'm keen to read through a changelog before upgrading from trilium v0.63.7.

I've been self-hosting trilium for a few years and love it, would like to see updates though; there a few UI/UX areas that feel like they need polish.

I was initially unhappy about using a database to store my notes, and I do worry about how I'd migrate my trilium notes to another system, but the experience thus far has been pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I was just posting to get some eyes on the project in case there were some folks who wanted to join the community and help get things rolling even faster.

'🎁 An official backward-compatible TriliumNext Notes release should be available soon!’

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Judging by the size, just another electron app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

do you have a feature comparison table with silverbullet? https://github.com/silverbulletmd/silverbullet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And by the way, I do really, really, really like Silver Bullet. It's just that it's not quite as user-friendly for family members and co-workers to use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

No, but I wish somwone would make a table similar to: https://github.com/meichthys/foss_photo_libraries

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Give me an open source solution that can import notebooks from OneNote and I'm sold!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We actually plan to be able to do this! I am a OneNote convert and was able to convert everything to Trilium with quite minimal formatting issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

BTW Check out the work of others, maybe you could salvage few things for your project as well

https://pixelfed.social/p/graphito/687315600101058902

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Database is a non starter for me too.

With plain MD files you can sync and edit everywhere with any tools.

Sorry to say that tools comes and go... My notes don't. In 20 years time I will be using different tools, same notes.

The same is true for photos, and that's why Immich is also a no go for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is an option in Immich to arrange the data with no internal files and folders weird codes making.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Thats why I prefer Flatnotes. But there is still room for improvement like folders, tag-handling or storing images linked in md-files.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I settled with silverbullet.md self hosted, plus native editor on android, and synchting to keep stuff up to date.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Thank you very much!
I installed it on my Raspi today and it has exactly what I miss in other Markdown web editors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Immich allows you to act on existing directory structures of images now. The database itself is hardly an issue there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nope, all immich metadata is stored in the db, maybe the files themselves are in the folders, but all info on albums and tags and such would be lost in immich database in 20 years time.

While my 20+ years of photos with metadata stored and sorted by album/folders will still be accessible in the next 20 years.

Its a matter of not depending on one tool specific formats but on standards and easy accessible metadata.

Nothing against immich at all on my side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

IIRC, photoprism (alternative to Immich) supports storing image metadata in a json/yaml file next to the original photo file.

EDIT: https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/backups/export/

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

"The last note taking app you should ever need"

..oh BTW there is no mobile app.

What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Don’t be aggressive. It’s foss and community driven.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I meant the title as a tounge and cheek reference, but I wasn't obvious about it!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

The only note taking app you’ll ever need, again.

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