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"I found it very weird that there essentially is no way to browse the web in an open manner. So that's what I am trying to build," the founder of Stract said.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I find the amount of engineers who have built an "alternative to google on their spare time" truly fascinating. Because if you think that is possible, IMO, you have no idea what Google actually built.

Its just not a search engine, and also, as a search engine, it stopped being a good model to follow a decade ago.

Build on the ideas and build something new instead

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

OMG YES! I was really bummed after Gigablast died. Here's hoping it'll be more useful than the open source search engines I've tried in the past.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I hope they make it self-hostable.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This seems cool, and it's nice to see people creating alternatives to google, but I probably won't end up using it.

Over the past few months I've tried both DuckDuckGo and Kagi. Both are decent for a lot of things, and Kagi has some really nice features, but in practice they've just taught me that I actually want my search engine to know a bit about me.

If I'm looking for something in the area on a google search, I can literally just search the thing. Google already knows where I am and knows what context I'm probably looking for, so it gets me to important results faster. While that might not be particularly useful for areas where Kagi's tools shine (like research), it turns out that a ton of my searches are just basic stuff like looking for store hours and phone numbers. In both cases I found myself getting frustrated with not having google as my default, requiring a bunch of extra typing or a manual switch of search engines.

I'd love to get a viable replacement for google, but realizing how much my searching benefits from their massive pile of data on me, I don't know that I'll actually find one without that. It is nice to have an alternative if results get too personalized or if I want to check against like a baseline search, but search is the one place I've tried to get away from google that I keep going back.

I definitely am glad I got away from them for email and document storage, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's the predicament between choosing convenience or privacy. Apart from local businesses, what other searches have you found are improved by them having your data? For me, it's money exchange rates.

(What alternatives do you use for email and storage, though?)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Searches that require some context are often a lot easier to find. Like, if I'm searching for something D&D related, I rarely have to specify that that's what I'm looking for. If it's on wikidot, it'll come up right away. Even for pretty generic words like 'web' or 'death', it knows I'm looking for the spell on the one hand and the cleric domain on the other, just because I've searched for so much D&D stuff and done so over and over again.

For mail I use Proton, for backup I use iDrive. I'm pretty happy with both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Seems nice, thanks for alerting me of that!

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