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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    MS’s built-in security platform is top tier also. Some companies like alternative products.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

    There is nothing Microsoft I would consider "top tier" when it comes to security.

    Defender does a great job for many AV tasks. Crowdstrike does more, and protection isn't tied to windows updates.

    This isn't a situation where companies just chose not to use the free item, the free item has other costs (management overhead) and is missing some features.

    The best answer, of course, is to not use windows for anything that needs to be secure.

    Edit: For those who think I'm wrong, cool. I'm not but you are welcome to disagree.

    There is a difference between the free defender and paid for defender. If you're a home user, check out defenderui.com to get (many, not all) features that are normally limited to intune/gpo.

    A full and proper deployed defender stack is very good, but in terms of management.... The approach to different os's is practically cobbled together, the webui is horrific, and it lacks some basic functionality. A problem to manage a system like this is a problem to deploy a system like this.

    If you're on the free Defender level, you are not getting anywhere near the same features as falcon, there is absolutely zero question about that.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    The fact that random companies like Crowdstrike have kernel drivers in millions of computers they they ship remotely is a security risk in and of itself. We're lucky crowdstrike just shipped a bug that crashes computers, other companies could have shipped a lot worse.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    other companies could have shipped a lot worse.

    other ~~companies~~ governments could have shipped a lot worse.

    FTFY

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    [–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I really don't want to be the guy responsible for this fuck up

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This is an industry wide issue. This is just the first symptom.

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    For a company this big it would also have to have gotten past a code review and QA team, right? ... right? ...

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    And who pushes out production updates on a Friday!

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    [–] [email protected] 145 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    the good news is that it does make windows more secure. you cant hack something that has crashed.

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Remember guys, it took about a decade for Solar Winds to discover somebody had root access to everybody that used their software, another decade for somebody outside Solar Winds to discover it and tell everybody, and half a decade with nobody claiming to have solved the issue up to now.

    So when you believe that your computer with an EDS is safe just because you can't use it, think again.

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Sometimes you have to learn the hard way...

    [–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'd laugh if this wasn't affecting me directly.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I laugh and it does/did(over now) affect me. Bwahaha. Im getting work done and nobody can interrupt with email.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

    I can laugh either for or at you, if you want.

    I'll pour one out for the frontliners.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

    Username kinda ckecks out

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