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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (11 children)

So just like any extreme narcissist?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's one in specific I think you know is being referred to. And not the one in the photo, one that is, unfortunately, alive today.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I actually thought of Musk first but Trump or Putin or any other dictator probably also fits. Generally most high level politicians are probably like this, but maybe to varying degrees of severity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is Putin considered petty?

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will **believe a big lie **sooner than a little one; and **if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. **

https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection3pt1.htm

[–] [email protected] 167 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I never understood how normal, kind Germans in the 1920s could be so brainwashed that they'd turn into monsters just a few years later.

Now I've lived through it and seen the same transformation within my own family. It's incredibly sad.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Patriotism is one helluva drug. Also: the socdems and the liberals helped.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it's accurate to call it patriotism. It's fine to love your country.

This is nationalism, in other words "my country is better than yours", or "I'm better than you because I live in a better country than you do".

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's fine to love your country.

Agree to disagree.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Care to expand because this seems like a pretty extreme position?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't really see the difference between what you call patriotism and nationalism. It's both identity politics in favour of the powerful. If I focus on "loving" my country, I might get distracted that both I as well as my siblings from other countries get exploited by the ruling class.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I thought I explained it already. You can love one thing without it automatically meaning you must hate something else.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

It's very much like how people have created cults, slowly pushing the boundaries people will accept, while also claiming to be the authority of everything and accept no blame. And people crave a sense of belonging, and community. By the time people find out they are following a monster they are so far down the wrong path they feel trapped and it's the path of least resistance to just go with it. Also an example is made of anyone trying to rock the boat.

Was an episode of The Dollop (podcast) about a teacher that created a cult of his students to show them this exact scenario (how everyday Germans got behind Hitler). I'll look it up later if nobody beats me to it before then.

Edit - nevermind found it faster than I thought I would.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

crave a sense of belonging, and community

this goes for brand fanbois too-- i'm in another thread full of people frothing at the mouth because i had the gall to point out how some report the company published didn't make them particularly special within the industry. it's sad seeing grown ass adults whiteknighting for a corporation, of all things

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And i still don't understand it, even if I'm seeing it happen live with my own two eyes

There really is something wrong

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago
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