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What if I told you... (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Original meme was based, but so vague it just validated everyone who reads it

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People need to stop using that dumpster site.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Matrix being predicated on a climate disaster is also entirely lost, along with nonconformity in general.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also AI is evil although that was like the main plot point

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with this take at all. Agent Smith was definitely evil, the machines were victims of capitalist exploitation, which they just turned right around on humanity once they took charge.

I suppose that point is mostly explored in the sequels though.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (2 children)

MAGA fools needed 4 seasons to understand that The Boys is making fun of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Didn't a lot of republicans also get mad after season 3‽

[+] [email protected] -14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's very easy to read Billy Butcher as a right wing reactionary vigilante, because he's written as a caricature of an 80s/90s action hero.

It's easy to read Homelander as a Woke, Soy, Cucked establishment liberal because - early on - that's exactly the role he fills.

The show has gone downhill as the (relatively thin) subtlety in the narrative has worn away. By season 4, they were all but branding "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy" on people's heads, in a show that originally did at least pretend to struggle with morality in what amounts to a guerrilla war.

That's before you get into the compulsive need to make gross out humor the Cruz of every episode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is very easy to miss that Butcher is ping-ponging between:

Tough guy that uses people.
Guy with high morals that values friendships.
A father in a fundamentally broken relationship that is out of reach.

People might easily miss these when he says oi cunt as a distraction.

Also, it might be easily missed but all his using of establishment and grinding against it, while championing people might get lost on people. Butcher does his oi cunt I shoot ya gobba off with a shooty-shoty, it is bong o'clock way too much so the fact that he is closer to a redfash might get lost on people. Also because actual redfash historical figures are rarely portrayed as anything but a dumb baddie.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It kinda does start off with a member of the Seven killing the main characters girlfriend, so good/bad should be well established for anyone who's awake

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Starlight's main function in season 1

Is a contrast to how evil every single member of the 7 and Vought are.
Vehicle for of women problems. Ya know, like rape, objectification, position in male dominated environment.
Love interest for Hughie. Where down the line they form a relationship of a powerful woman and a bit lost and freaked out boy becoming a man way too late.

This is all, oh so thinly veiled and conveyed that I am sure it went over most peoples heads.

Oh, by season 3 Homelander fucks a nazi that is a member of the 7. For people that still do not get it. If you align with a nazi state, like say russia, it makes you a nazi.

Like how the fuck do you need a talk of concentration camps to finally catch on?

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

What if I told you...

... that the Wachowskis first contacted Will Smith to be Neo, but he turned it down as he was working on Wild Wild West at the time?

But uh yeah, it is absurd and infuriating that 'red pill' now means "become a misogynist douchebag scam artist bullshit guru to maximize profits" in a movie series that is entirely about defying the world as constructed by orientation around the profit motive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Wow that's a bombshell piece of trivia, can you imagine if Smith said yes? Thank god it turned out this way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

The term “Agent Smith” within the movies would become very confusing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

To prove I am not making this up:

https://people.com/movies/why-will-smith-turned-down-the-matrix/

https://screenrant.com/will-smith-matrix-neo/

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I still use red pill to mean estrogen and if a misogynist tells me he took the red pill, I congratulate her on starting her transition.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine ‘escaping the matrix’ only to end up supporting capitalism and the overall status quo.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So basically Cypher.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

"You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss."

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