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The electricity grid operators of the three Baltic countries on Tuesday officially notified Russia and Belarus that they will exit a 2001 agreement that has kept Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania connected to an electricity transmission system controlled by Moscow.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They definitely know what it was like to suffer under Soviet repression, so no surprise here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine

Klein argues that neoliberal free market policies (as advocated by the economist Milton Friedman) have risen to prominence in countries and regions such as the United States, the United Kingdom, China, the European Union, and Eastern Europe, because of a deliberate strategy of "shock therapy". This centers on the exploitation of national crises (disasters or upheavals) to establish controversial and questionable policies, while citizens are too distracted (emotionally and physically) to engage and develop an adequate response and resist effectively. The book advances the idea that several man-made events, such as the Iraq War, were undertaken with the intention of pushing through unpopular free market capitalist policies in their wake.

The Eastern Bloc suffered an enormous drop in living quality following the dissolution of the USSR. Far from reaping a bounty via free market liberty, the people in these countries found themselves the subject of a historic privatization and looting of national treasuries and resources.

Bulgaria is an interesting data point. It's economy collapsed during the '90, and was rapidly privatized in the '00s after the son of Tsar Boris III of Bulgaria (deposed in 1946) was installed as the state's Prime Minister.

Corruption under the former aristocrat soared, access to education and housing was stripped away, and the country's most productive assets were sold off piecemeal to private investors.

By the mid-10s, the country was wracked with the same street protests and riots that brought down the Soviet government. These protests only ended after a far right paramilitary backed government cracked down on public media and launched police raids against the largest dissident groups. The country currently has no functional government, as the PM-ship is passed between minority party stakeholders, crime is rampant, and poverty is endemic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Eastern Bloc suffered an enormous drop in living quality following the dissolution of the USSR. Far from reaping a bounty via free market liberty, the people in these countries found themselves the subject of a historic privatization and looting of national treasuries and resources.

This is a black and white perspective. You have to keep in mind that citizens of these countries were significantly worse off as (involuntarily) being part of the USSR than the countries that were not in the Eastern Bloc, and most of them are now significantly better off as part of the EU. Most citizens remember the repression, shortages, and russification all too well.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You have to keep in mind that citizens of these countries were significantly worse off as (involuntarily) being part of the USSR than the countries that were not in the Eastern Bloc

Which citizens? Migrants have been flooding out of the Eastern Bloc for decades.

And what does "voluntary" membership in the EU look like when you've got five years of riots that can only be quelled by tanks in the streets?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you sure you are on the right server? I think Lemmy.ml is probably more your bubble.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Petty much the view that Russia's neighbours see when looking across the border. And the Russians wonder why nobody wants be friends...

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well great thing. What will this mean to the Kaliningrad Region of Russia. As it is not directly connected to Russia and landlocked by Lithuania and Poland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

If they can't generate their own, I'd guess they'd have to buy it from a neighbour. The agreement isn't a total lack of trade, but withdrawing from Russia having control over their grids.

Of course that means they'd have to behave in Kalingrad, else they'd see power cut off. Personally I thing Moscow has the resources to build a power plant in Kalingrad if they haven't already.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is an interesting thought exercise. Would they really be cut off, and what would the impacts look like? I don't know anything about Kaliningrad internal sustainability, but could guess it's... not good. Time to annex?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a Pole, I want Kaliningrad to be renamed to Królewiec (or Kralovec for that matter), all Russians deported and the land split evenly for Czechs and Slovaks so that they finally get their sea access.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, lets not forcefully deport people from their homes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

As Europe returns to it's fascist roots, I'm afraid this sentiment is going to steadily increase in popularity.

Strap in for another 30 Years War.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Ethnically cleanse Russians from Kaliningrad, annex the territory and fill it with ethnic Czechs and Slovaks. Not fascistic at all...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Hell yea brother! All aboard the Královec express! :D

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Unless you are proposing a genocide (which I hope not), Königsberg is full of russians, which I doubt many countries would want to deal with right now.

It is (or it was) the major military seaport in the baltic... and we are speaking about russia. They most likely generate their own power.

On the long run, i think it should be annexed by the EU as a common land for the whole union.

Edit: Just checked, they mainly produce energy with gasoil and are apparently currently importing energy from EU to satisfy internal demand. They also have a nuclear power plant of 2,34 MW (2 VVER) under construction. They built it under the idea of producing energy to export but as they failed to find buyers, construcción was halt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

2,34MW seems pretty low for a nuclear power plant. For comparison, the smallest nuclear plant in the US produces 568MW

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the long run, i think it should be annexed by the EU as a common land for the whole union

What about we turn it into a great nudist LGBTQ+ friendly resort? With rainbows and unicorns and blahajs and what not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Beautiful idea in theory, but the deeply conservative domestic residents might not appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's the best time to start. The authorities are probably too busy to chance down some queers at the beach.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kaliningrad is not called Königsberg anymore. There was a war over this.

On the long run, I think it should be annexed by the EU.

This is imperialism. IMO, the people of the Oblast Kaliningrad should be able to decide for themselves since the Russian Federation is de jure a federation. Once independent, Kaliningrad would be able to go through EU's process of entry into the union.

I don't see this happening anytime soon, because Russia is de facto neither a federation nor a democracy and I assume the people of Kaliningrad do not have the political will to be independent or part of the EU at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People casually calling for the ethnic cleansing of Russians from a Russian Oblast and annexation of the territory is fucked up.

Russia's crimes in Ukraine don't make it okay for us to become completely deranged and want to forcibly remove thousands upon thousands of people from a region.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Except…. No one in this messaging chain called for ethnic cleansing, just annexation. So…. maybe don’t make stuff up?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No need, they are already part of the Czech Republic, there was even a totally 100% legit referendum about it back in 2022 :P

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