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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Never seen a show kill all interest in itself as GoT did at the end.

Although the quality had already dropped enormously as soon as they ran out of book.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They tried so hard to subvert expectations that they fucking obliterated everyone's character arcs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Gotta admit, I expected the show to end up making sense. Subverted!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion, this scene was so fucking awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Bucky did it better in Captain America: The Winter Soldier

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Greatest teleport assassination in history

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I can understand saying it was rushed and poorly done, but the trained assassin, who serves the god of death, absolutely should have been the one to kill the night king. No one has a bigger beef with death than the undead army master.

Jon came back to kill Danny and take the throne and restore what passes for peace.

The Three Eyed Raven took it from Jon.

None of this was especially well laid out or planned or paced correctly, but it's the most Game of Thrones path they could've taken.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not about who killed the night king, it's about when he died. If the opening scene of the show is about the white walkers coming and killing everyone, that should be the final scene of the show. Imagine return of the Jedi beginning with killing off Darth Vader, the main villain that the protagonists have been fighting against the entire time, and then the rest of the movie is Luke trying to defeat Jabba. Or if frodo got the ring to Mt Doom and then they still had to defeat saruman

They should have lost the battle in winterfell, retreated to kings landing, then had a final battle against the night King and cersei all in one major battle. It truly doesn't matter who kills the night King, just that he is the last antagonist to die since he was the first one to be introduced. It's about closing plot threads in the order that you open them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Should I have put the part about being poorly paced, planned, and executed in bigger text or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

That's pretty general though. I'm trying to pinpoint the issue as the show not properly nesting plot threads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it was Martin's plan, but the writers took the most stupid and lazy routes to get there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I honestly think he hasn't finished the books because he's got no idea himself how to actually end it. And after the backlash the show got, he's now pretty sure it shouldn't end like that...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

His two main assistants also fucked off and then wrote The Expanse series of books. Style is surprisingly similar to GoT, and makes me wonder how much was George and how much was them....

Then The Expanse got made into a show and thems two fucked off for good.

IMO his assistants did a lotmof the heavy lifting, and there was too much left to tie off with GoT so he just gave up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It's worse than that: there does not exist a good way to end it. He started too many plot threads and now it's impossible to end them all in a satisfying way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They didn't do a good job of combining the existential threat of the dead with the political turmoil. It would've been better to focus on just one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I kind of like the idea that the white walkers end up being inconsequential to the story.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I like the King dying to an assassin. He ended up being not too much more than a man in the end.

I'm not sure about his army dying with him though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

On the plus side, Lyanna Mormont was pretty awesome.

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