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Slim Shady saying trans rights before GTA VI rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah, I walk around more confused than my aunt Linda's man-friend A black transgender Klan member (What?) Who's a Caitlyn Jenner fan and a (What?) Member of Grindr and Tinder Head empty as an empty abandoned a— (Yeah) 'Partment while I'm dancing a— 'Round all these names and labels that I can't memo— (What the fuck?) 'Rize, now my antennaes Are up on this PC shit, I'm finna Go out on my shield like Captain A— (What?) 'Merica, transcender:::

given what hes said for years about caitlyn jenner and pronouns, and the shit he says on antichrist im not gonna pretend this shit isnt just transphobic. these statements dont stop at a sexual preference. he is too uncomfortable about having preferred pronouns to wrap his head around it, and thinks queer people are the ones who are confused. the whole album makes fun of little people, mentally and physically handicapped people, and genuinely half the songs mention trans people. Rent free. Most milk toast right wing opinion, this isnt brave art, hes just a shitty dude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Milquetoast?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

🍼🍞

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if you took any of this seriously, you obviously didn’t understand the entire point of the album

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

when half the response to the album is people saying the transphobia is a w for him, i think you might be missing something.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Or maybe most people are missing the concept behind a concept album.

The idea behind Slim Shady is that he’s a shitty person. Like BoJack Horseman, or Rick Sanchez. They’re entertaining, and the content surrounding them is great. But the point of it is realizing that they’re horrible people.

The response of people saying his offensive remarks also missed the entire point, just like people who support the characters mentioned above

EDIT: also, if you think that quote you put in your response is meant in any level of seriousness, you’re deranged..

“Black transgender Klan member…” like, really? It’s ridiculous from the setup.

EDIT 2: you being pissed off is the entire point.

By all means, be pissed off. It’s entertaining to see people react in the expected way.

But just realize you’re upset at a character, rather than a person.

It’s like being pissed off that Cartman said some fuck shit and you blame it on the South par writers…. That is to say, fucking stupid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

fine essay, c+, i have office hours every weekday if you need notes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Lmfao. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Agree or disagree, this response made me chuckle for a good minute. Props to that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

thinks queer people are the ones who are confused

Not a native English speaker, so I might be completely wrong, but doesn't the word 'queer' litteraly mean 'confused' / 'weird'? Not that it makes a difference in this context, I'm just wondering

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

queer does mean odd, not confused. it is a reclaimed term used to describe lgbt+ people as a catchall.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (4 children)

In the album context this reads like Shady narrative, not "Eminem/Marshall", but yeah, it was kinda weird to listen to before "Guilty Conscience" kind of put this in some artistic "alter-ego" context. The aftertaste remained, though. Reminded me how South Park re-branded Cartman for a while. I guess this is what a lot of 90s/2000s art & humor that leaned on ignorant shock humor has gone through to adapt. That wave died a natural death (or got killed (?) like Slim Shady by Eminem on this album, supposedly). Limp Bizkit comes to mind as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is just my theory, but I think this order is also meant to communicate a message, a kinda "anybody you look up to can turn out to be like this", what makes it cool, I think, is that it works whether you believe he is a hateful fuck or not after the alter ego "reveal". (Altho it is called "the death of slim shady" so the idea is kinda of there from the beginning.

I also think not everyone listens to the full album in order (which one could say is the intended experience by the artist, there is a narrative after all), so without the extra context, it is understandably much harder to believe that this is not Marshall rapping, but Slim Shady

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if the Bloodhound Gang made an album today....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

John Wayne wouldn't use a smart plug!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

this album has a feature that deadnames caitlyn jenner, an "artistic alter ego" is the same artist and what the songs platform is clear. its not parody, its not punching out equally, its hateful and intentionally ignorant for the sake of it. the album is obsessed with pronouns and trans people, not just the slim portions

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"ive just gotta get these slurs out of my system, then i will apologize and retire them"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That statement doesn’t absolve him from critique.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

no shit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it felt like that to me, too, despite the context. Also it's painfully obvious insecurity was (again) a major player in authoring this project with the dated "cancel me!!!" theme throughout the album, this was what stood out the most for me. Didn't feel like having fun was a huge part of making this record.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But isn't Slim doing the "I'm all for em, BUT..." thing and then goes on to say some fucked up shit iirc? As far as I've listened this album is about Em's conflict with Slim where Slim is an absolute asshole stuck in early 2000s. But I've only listened like twice and probably won't again.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s a concept album where Marshall is battling with Shady. Theres a lot of fucked up shit, but the idea behind it is that it’s a fucked up character saying it, much like Cartman in South Park (which he directly talks about on the album), but he directly acknowledges that this character/version of him is fucked up.

In this particular case however, he basically just says “I support trans rights, I’m just not sexually attracted to trans women” in a very crass way, as is his style

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I rather like how inclusive he's being with his hate. "Trouble" made me laugh, looking out for the under-hated groups.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro literally started a song with “fuck blind people, and deaf people suck”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Respectfully, I think you're missing the album's point. He's fighting his old self and his old demons. He realizes these things aren't appropriate anymore and is showing that basically the character Slim Shady wouldn't exist today. He's even killing that character off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Oh no, I completely agree. I was just bringing up the first line to the song they mentioned cause its hilariously insane