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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (31 children)

Something that no one has discussed in this highly enlightened conversation here is the issue of consent. A person cannot consent to being born. Full stop. I don't know of a way around that besides ignoring it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean I know there's no way to obtain that consent, but I did let my parents know that they should have just gotten the abortion since the condom ripped.

I wasn't planned, and I shouldn't have been born into that family. None of them were ready or cared to be ready or even cared to be with each other as they almost immediately split after my birth.

One thing I'll literally NEVER understand are the women on dating sites with literal newborns... What the actual fuck?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's consent to a being that doesn't exist?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (13 children)

When you force it into existence, literally everything

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Nothing, unless they start existing.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is why religious people outnumber us.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

they call me wujb

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree. The thought of bringing a child into the world in our current political and economical landscape would be gross.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

hahaha it’s funny because you twisted my words to mean the opposite good one 😂😂😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Minus the emojis, this statement would be great antihumor (not a disagreement with your point, I just love antihumor).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

antihumor + emojis = a good antidote for unkind trolling in my experience :)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

It's only encouraged because if people stop having children, it breaks the system, an utterly shit system which apparently can't be fixed fast enough if people stop having children so we better go full speed ahead on a the most moronically large scale sunk cost calamity that is going to hit us like a brick wall along with all the other things piling up.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any advanced society should be able to acknowledge that population growth must not outpace the available resources. Or else there will be Bad Times For All

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are more houses/apartments than people.
There is more food going to the trash than what we need.

It's not that we have a lot of people. The problem is the greed of a few and the complacency/idiocy of the rest.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, having kids probably reduced my household resource consumption, compared to the dual income no kid lifestyle that my wife and I had before kids.

Population growth is so far disconnected from resource consumption, because people's resource consumption does not resemble a bell curve. A private jet produces more CO2 in an hour (about 2 tonnes) than the average Indian produces in a year (about 1.9 tonnes).

The poor people having children aren't destroying the planet. Rich people, childless or not, are. (And yes, I acknowledge that I fall under the "rich" category here.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know you, but you probably don't fall on the category of "rich" in my mind.

Richer than an Indian farmer. Ok. I'm also rich then. I live in a house (not mine) and don't go hungry.

I don't even consider billionaires on the scale.....that is just an afront on humanity and shouldn't exist.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's funny to think that modern humans have been around for tens of thousands of years but we're only ~80 years of infertility away from global extinction.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Antinatalism is reactionary and incorrect.

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