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I personelly think lemmy users doesn't just have that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread .and people on lemmy seems to think they are absolutely right.

(EDIT :I am not saying i miss these thing or like them even though i kinda do i am just saying things like that were a part of reddit culture like how 4chan have their on culture. Like lemmy is supposed to be a reddit alternative but now there are no niche subs and everyone is too into politics it just doesn't feel like a reddit alternative .) .

I have been on lemmy for more than 2 months and i mostly lurked or had temp accounts with different usernames (there were only one or two which i have now closed) but this place seems more serious than lighthearted fun but i will still stay here becuase f**k corpos . So these are my views and opinion what do you guys think ?

EDIT: I must include one thing which is on reddit i have never had a real account i just made one or two the entire time i used it which were throwaways that i used to view a post from "subs that are not reviewed" and may not be safe (unless in their app of course -logic.exe missing) or comment . Here i have aldready decided to create a permanent account and start contributing to the communities and i have only been here for 2 months. And i guess i just used reddit to access information and just didn't felt the need to have an acc or contrubute .END RANT.

EDIT : DO READ THE EDITS.

EDIT : I AM NOT IMPLYING OR EVEN WANT ANYONE TO GO BACK I REALLY DO WANT LEMMY TO BE BETTER . I AM NIT SHOUTING I AM JUST AFRAID SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE WRONG IDEA . AND FOR WHAT ITS WORTH IN MY OPINION REDDIT IS SHIT COMPARED TO LEMMY. SO PLEASE NO ONE GO BACK AND IF YOU HAVE ANY REDDIT FRIENDS INVITE THEM HERE.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm active on both sites, my Reddit profile not being a secret to most communities on Lemmy. I don't see so much of an issue regarding either one, the transition not being any different from, say, alternating between Netflix and Amazon. The only thing I'd say bugs me is in fact the Reddit complaints, since people on almost every single site I've been to with a place for complaints have complained at least once about Reddit, like it's trendy even though it's actually better than most sites.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It seemed to me like Reddit basically drove off half their content creators AND Lemmy didnt really steal too much of Reddit's userbase (around 1%)

I stopped posting there when it was clear they were hell bent on enshitifying the site. It was kind of dead here for a while after that and still isnt where reddit was/is contentwise but its getting there slowly. It is certainly to a point where I dont feel like going back to reddit for anything.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

All I care about is not being forced advertisements

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm here, but would still be on reddit if their app didn't suck compared to what I was used to before the API purge. I still prefer reddit's content, but hate how I have to view it now so I'm here with y'all trying to blend in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lemmy was half edgy "fuck reddit am i rite?" spam around the initial exedus. It took a while for people to move on to something else and when they did, it was fine. But back then it was really cringy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Me too but also in here for my personnel moral,ethics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's why I came here initially, but I miss some reddit communities enough I'd go back if their app wasn't trash. Here I get too many star trek and DnD memes, constant reminders I'm not as good of a person as I thought, and Linux posts.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

All I can say is, lmao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's being called "worst" changes from one platform to another, and also the metric for thriving/success/failure/dying. So, more objectively, here's what I believe that will happen:

  • [Almost sure] Reddit will die in the next 1~2 years. The death will be caused by noise, brain drain, lack of moderation, and higher-up abuse. Reddit is by no means as resilient as Twitter.
  • [Somewhat certain] The "Fediverse forums" will enjoy some moderate success. They won't become as big as Reddit, but they'll get way bigger than they are now.
  • [Somewhat certain] Lemmy and Mbin will become part of a plurality. Other forum platforms for the Fediverse will appear, and compete with both internally.
  • [Uncertain, but worth mentioning] Lemmy will become rather small in said plurality, as one of those in-Fediverse alternatives will have killer features that Lemmy won't develop due to lack of interest, in a vicious cycle.
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ads. I loathe them. I will not engage with your community that forces adds.

Sure, I miss Reddit, and Youtube, and Netflix, etc., but I'm happier having stood for my principles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I just think Kbin is neat!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy won but Reddit didn't lose.

Lemmy culture was great during the initial exodus, but now sometimes I don't feel like I belong here. On Reddit, you could often find your subculture. I want the fediverse to succeed tho.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Why not make the community you want? I made !micromobility on Lemmy and people seem to like it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Do heelys count as micromobility?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think that's the answer. But have to make a community with broad enough scope to draw enough people to be active I think? E.g. instead of fountain pens: writing instruments so you get the pen, pencil, typewriter, etc. fans.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah exactly my thoughts

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Except that Lemmy did catch on.

It didn't catch on to the point that it got as big as Reddit, but anyone who expected that is a fool. It caught on to the point that it's viable - it's not going anywhere. And as time goes on, it's going to continue to grow. And that's sufficient, and really IMO to its advantage. Lemmy has a different feel from Reddit, and I like it better. And the new users it attracts over time are going to be people who appreciate it. And if the bulk of the meme-regurgitating karma whores stay on Reddit, all the better for Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really miss the worthless internet points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't agree or disagree because i never had a real account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On kbin / mbin you can see your worthless internet points again (as well as who it was that upvoted or downvoted you). You can live in that world once more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

mozz i don't care about internet points why are you tellin me ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That sounds like exactly what someone with only 39 internet points would say

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait, kbin.social shows that ONRYO has got already 236 rep
You are not seeing everything ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like exactly what someone with only 2719 internet points would say

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your first part about references was one of the things I disliked the most about Reddit where someone would make a pop culture reference and it would spiral into.a comment chain of just quotes with no originality, I'm glad that hasn't caught on in Lemmy.

My second least favourite thing, US defaultism, is alive and well on Lemmy unfortunately. On Reddit you would be told it's an American website and to deal with it, well this is the fediverse and I don't want to deal with it. Just say where you are from or what country news are about, it's not much to ask.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The difference for me is Reddit started treating it's loyal users like sellable assets. I loved Reddit, it was a comfort zone for a long time, but they betrayed my trust, so I left and I have no intention of returning.

I doesn't matter if Reddit is really dead or not. They are dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah dead to me too though now and again i go there for informarion with adblock of course.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Not just the amen, but the awomen and the achildren too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I’m in a fair amount of niche communities here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Hmm. Yeah, I think it's less of either one dying, but a stirring event causing a sorting.

I didn't like what was happening over there, so I tried anything but reddit for a while, and the fediverse fit me better, so I settled here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, I go back on Reddit every few days, it's definitely worse. Faker, more moderated than before (tons of deleted posts and banned users). People are the same assholes as usual though so that hasn't changed much. Also these communities take time to grow, alternatively, there is nothing wrong with them being small either.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I mean, do people think reddit will get better once it IPOs?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I genuinely never engaged with Reddit at all, so I'm not in a position to compare, but I don't think the numbers suggest that Reddit "is dying" or even that it got significantly impacted.

Which is fine by me. If anything, the vibe here is less Reddit and more "late 90s/early 00s forums" and that's an improvement on my book.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you and in a way both sides are right.

The folks who want the nice vibe and early web feel like it here better, and the ones who stayed on Reddit are happy us old hackers aren't olding up the place anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You also recognize users more often on here, I run into your comments all the time. hi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That too. It's small enough here that I'm getting to know some folks I see a lot of. I think the profile pics help with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
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