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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Might be useful if you’re in a “blue state” already, obviously she hasn’t even the slightest chance of winning. The paltry leftist/socdem parties in the US need to unify in some United Front, as it currently stands, you’re just dividing that tiny vote to even less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I don't know why I'd vote for Jill Stein when I can vote for PSL and get a better version of her platform with actual organisation behind it.

I don't know why Jill Stein doesn't join PSL and get a better version of her platform with actual organisation behind it.

I don't like the US Greens and don't trust them with power any more than I do democrats.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I really like Jill stein personally because she outright refuses to demonize russia, and often speaks against rallies against US imperialism. For this she's been branded as a pro-russian heretic in US media.

The US green party is much more left than a lot of european ones, who are nearly all pro-NATO.

Yes, electoralism will not save us, but she's doing exactly what we expect even a revolutionary party to do: use the electoral platform to publicly agitate against war and imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Even if you 100% agreed with her, the US Green Party is entirely useless. You can't win the presidency without a party, and you can't build a party by making hail Mary runs at the presidency. You have to start by squeaking out some wins in large municipalities or maybe the House, probably a blue bastion with a lazy and incompetent Dem machine. Get a Green AOC out there in the spotlight who can pull donors. Then move laterally, eating into Dem support wherever you can, and, hell, even take Republican money to undercut the Democratic party's power base. Greens don't do this - they throw all of their funding into the presidential race that they can never win. And it ought to make you think twice about supporting a party that never seems to care about winning.

As it stands, Greens functionally only exist to be a spoiler for Democrats in the presidential race. I'm not saying that them spoiling the Dems is the issue - it's that putting any faith in them to attempt their stated goals is a waste of energy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Same basic argument I hear from US shitlib media 🤔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Better than Biden but a bigger waste of time than not voting

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

People too often celebrate mid

No mainstream US leftist is worth the energy they consume