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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'd fedora starts to use it then yeah I'll use it but I'll just make an alias cause muscle memory

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

As the old adage goes: "All roads lead to /root"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

su is the best. I mean, i should be using the admin (root) password for admin things, not the user password of user who is already logged in. And there needs to be a root service already running to make user have root previlages which is dumb imo. Sudo vulnerability could cause previlage escalation but if there is no root process managing this, then it can't leak the root access. Only kernel security issue(or other root processes) will leak root access if that was the case, which i think is better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The permission to do admin things is given by the root user, to your account. So you have to verify your identity by entering your password.

Isn't that how it is? I though that was analogous to how almost everything worked IRL. Whether withdrawing funds from a bank or engaging government services, you prove your identity as a customer/citizen to get the relevant services. At no point do you login to bank or government computers with full privileges.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you own your own bank, then i think you login as the one with full previlages. Yes when doing administrator things, you have to use sudo. The problem with root with sudo is, you authenticate as a user, then gain full permission from root, i.e analogous to login in to bank with full previlages.

As a person who need to run sudo command its better to just verify yourself as root user to gain "full access". I'm not saying about partial previlages. That is i just need a script which is just su -c with environment variables being copied

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see where you're coming from, but in enterprise environments, you have admin accounts and root login is disabled for security purposes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sure. Sudo is a super useful tool in such places. The problem I have is that it is stuffed into the desktop

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Completely agree with this take. There are dozens of us!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m surprised they would implement having just run0 effectively log you in as root. For the super security conscious constrictions of the command versus sudo, it would seem that the very notion of elevating your privilege beyond the single command to be carried out, would be anathema to the whole goal of this new command. Evidently not, but it’s surprising to me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you can run a command using run0 it's only elevating that commads, sometimes it's needed to login as root, it's life

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to understand what you just wrote. Did you miss a period somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They did not miss anything. They just used commas where periods should be.

You can run a command using run0. It’s only elevating that command. Sometimes it's needed to login as root. It’s life.

The way it is written, semi-colons may be more appropriate but that would be a lot of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You actually pointed out that they did, indeed, do miss a period (the one after "run0.")

you can run a command using run0 it’s only elevating that commads,

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to continue to keep avoiding Poettering software for as long as he continues to act like a jackass. Even his commit messages are dripping with condescension.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You'll have to give another example in order to support your point. Because that commit was funny!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Funny. I didn't know a single thing about the person. But that commit message made me like him more.

Ofc assuming he was just making a light-hearted joke in it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

exactly lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Users were complaining that their terminal transparency was being broken by the nspawn container and that the colour for other applications like tmux were being affected by it. For example tmux was appearing in the same navy blue in the terminal emulator instead of its usual green.

Idk he's just a hot take merchant basically. He has a particular hate-boner for distros that don't use systemd as the default init system like void and gentoo (usually these are troll tweets as opposed to commit messages though).

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