wake me when we can use them as a saml provider
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I know there are different use cases for each, but generally do people prefer self hosted nextcloud, proton docs, or libre office?
Nextcloud and OnlyOffice. Collabora is basically a VNC session over LibreOffice. While OnlyOffice is web-native and has much better compatibility.
FWIW collabora and open office can integrate with other clouds like Seafile and owncloud Infinite scale. So even without NextCloud it can be used. It can also be used stand alone.
probably depends what youre into, I have my own home lab so I setup nextcloud with collabora for my personal stuff
I like how there seems to be more and more alternatives to MS Office, even from big companies like Google. Best case scenario, this could lead to companies actually starting to use an open format, like ODF, so that all these different office applications can be used without causing issues in the file and that would pave the way for open source alternatives, like LibreOffice or OnlyOffice, to become viable alternatives for a lot more people and companies. Do Google Docs and Proton Drive use/support ODF? I'm pretty sure MS Office supports it.
I wish msoffice would just die a miserable death
Word is a pain in the ass. Resize a table column by 1px and the rest of the document gets absolutely fucked
Excel suffers from similarly frustrating UI issues, but my main problem with it is that it's being used for things that it was never intended to be used for. On the extreme side, a company will shove all their HR info into one xlsx file and then someone will accidentally, somehow unrecoverably, delete it
More commonly, I've had to use it as a progress tracking/ticketing tool. An entire team adding rows, deleting rows, accidentally clearing formulas, highlighting random fucking cells, resizing columns etc. all at the same time. It's just hell.
Where I was working Excel was used for the specification of scientific data. You get stuff like thousands of rows in several sheets themselves in multiple files that inherit from one another and everything is edited by hand... And I maintained a tool that combined them to create binary files from this mess. Lot of fun.
Sadly, the lock-in is pretty extreme... as is user inertia. Office 365 has made the problem worse as well, even if you have something like OnlyOffice that does a good job of compatibility with Office, it can't sync with OneDrive.
If you collaborate with non-technical people, they will expect you to work in Office formats, and won't even entertain discussion of any alternative.
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It’s criminal that Microsoft has such a monopoly on word processing, they can’t even render text properly. It’s not an issue in Mac or Linux, but it is in all windows applications that aren’t using a chromium base.
Employer: Print out this .doc and bring it to work. Me, with a Mac: alright, here you go. Employer: why did you print it like this? Me: that’s what you sent me.
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Abusing Excel as a crappy database is a very real and very widespread problem.
You use what ya got, and you don't buy database software or hire a database guy until you know you need one
But access comes with office, so if you have excel you have at least a software that is intended to be used as a DB (efficacy aside)
Let's be real, using Excel as a makeshift database is probably still better than actually using Access lol
The only use case I can see for Access is when you absolutely must have a database and your company will not provide you a real database solution. I have experience with both, but haven't touched Access in years (and hope to never do so again). To be fair, I also regularly use Excel for things that I should probably be using Word for because it is easier to get formatting right in Excel.
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Probably true for most companies but I worked at one that had plenty of DB servers and developers, even developed their own database tech. Still, Excelitis as we called it was rampant.
Nothings more permanent than a temporary solution.
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ooooh I love this. Proton is just winning constantly these days.
Interesting. I will try to find out if it's 1:1 in handling .docx like OnlyOffice which i hope it is. It sucks that OnlyOffice won't run natively on Wayland.
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When I was degoogling a couple years ago I had a heck of a time choosing between protonmail and fastmail.
I went with the fastmail and, while I have no complaints, I'm starting to glance at greener grass.
I love Proton and will advocate for it any chance I get, but I can also see that it might be good to have people like you who don't put all their eggs in one basket
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Damn. Proton is doing a good job of stacking up W's these days.
Just tried it out with my proton account. Looks great! It's very simple, but I also like that about it. And of course being private is wonderful.
I don't see anything different.. How did you access it?
From what I read it's being released to users gradually I think?
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Simplicity is an underrated feature. I'm really excited to see this come out because I'm becoming a bigger fan of proton every day.
Great, hopefully it is as useful. Surveys and such are a must for any migration.