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[…] being able to say, "wherever you get your podcasts" is a radical statement. Because what it represents is the triumph of exactly the kind of technology that's supposed to be impossible: open, empowering tech that's not owned by any one company, that can't be controlled by any one company, and that allows people to have ownership over their work and their relationship with their audience.

What podcasting holds in the promise of its open format is the proof that an open web can still thrive and be relevant, that it can inspire new systems that are similarly open to take root and grow.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If only we didn't have gigantic centralized podcast hosts like Libsyn that also platform Neo-Nazis...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

It's only radical if it is not preceeded by "Apple podcasts, Spotify,...."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It’s no more radical than saying… “wherever you get your gasoline.” It’s just a thing to say because theres more than one source, and there being more than one source is not radical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s just a thing to say because theres more than one source, and there being more than one source is not radical.

The closest thing to podcasts is probably TV. You can't say "available wherever you stream television" because everything is exclusive to a different service. You can't even say "available wherever audiobooks are sold" for similar reasons. EPIC is trying to make the same thing true for video games as much as they can as well.

It is worth pointing out that entertainment does not have to be (and should not be) exclusive to a singular middleman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nothing radical about that. For 90% of people "Wherever you get your podcasts" means Apple, Spotify or YouTube. It has nothing to do with the win of freedom, it has to do with saving time to the speaker and listener. Same as with gas, as the other guy said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Apple, Spotify or YouTube

Or. Instead of "only on Netflix" and "only on Amazon Prime" and "only in Disney+".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

No?

There's only a handful of places you can get gasoline? It's almost entirely controlled by a few companies who control the majority of the pipeline.

You can't buy directly from the people making the oil.

A better example for the point you're trying to make is "whenever you get your apples".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

upvote this wherever you get your federated content.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Anil Dash is posting on threads?! lmao 🤡

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

AntennaPod (OpenSource) and I subscribe to RSS feeds. How else would you do it? Spotify? That crap can't even reliably store where I paused last time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the RSS feeds is the where er. Lots of podcasts only have ivoox, apple podcasts or spotify, and getri g their RSS, specially for older episodes, is absolute shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I would think podcasts without RSS is a tiny minority, and I wouldn't take them seriously. And I've never even heard of ivoox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Ooh. Nice! I hadn't heard of AntennaPod before. It seems to have everything that I use in Pocket Casts except for trim silence. I will try it out for a while and see if I miss that. I do use it and it saves a lot of time. Still though, OSS is a big draw.

Edit: It also doesn't open the queue or start playing automatically in Android Auto.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Correcting myself here. AntennaPod does have silence trimming, but it's neither a player button nor in settings, but in a …-menu at the top of the player, which made it a bit hard to find (Same can be said about some settings in Pocket Casts.) and there's no graduation, so it's mad max only, from how it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After reading your comment, I checked my Pocket Casts stats page and it looks like between the skipping, variable speed (1.5-2x), and trimmed silence (mad max), I save nearly 20% of listening time with the majority of that being the silence trimming.

Might be an outlier, but with daily podcast listening, trimming is important enough to keep me on Pocket Casts, even though AntennaPod is attractive given it's open source nature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You made me check. Since August 2018, I've cut about 1d using variable speed, and 1.5d using silence trimming. I'm only using mild at the moment, and have used medium before, but mad max was too much for my taste. But since I've listened for 83d, silence trimming is a <2% saving for me, so it might not mean much.

Edit: I do use it extensively specifically when catching up on the backlog of a podcast. So it probably accounts for way more during those times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Sounds like my usage is just different to yours. I can't remember why but I got accustomed to listening to audio at increased speed around a decade ago and slowly cranked it up to the point that now I can follow certain people's conversations slightly higher than 2x. Only with voices and cadence I'm familiar with though. Any guests on a show can really throw me off.

The silence trimming aspect is a bit absurd honestly. It makes laughter sound almost all the same and robotic; you have to infer where comedic, dramatic, or thoughtful pauses in the speech are; and if there's a more rapid fire back and forth in the conversation it can be tricky to follow. Although that last point doesn't happen with podcasts where all the speakers record separately and it's edited together to be coherent.

If you listen to a lot of shows, with hundreds of hours of episodes, it's worth dialing up as much as you can stand. Then again, if I didn't have two dozen podcasts with decades of backlog, I sure wouldn't be listening at auctioneer pace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Consuming podcadts through Spotify is a wild concept.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

As a devoted AntennaPod user, it works damn well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Podcast Addict and Podcast Republic ftw!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

not so fun fact: both of these apps actually just search iTunes

this whole article feels misleading to me. platforms where you can search for things by name without specifying who published it, cannot exist unless one (or a small handful) of organizations does all of the publishing. not unless search engines communicate with each other -- and since apple is one of the major players I can promise you they do not.

let's face it. 99% of podcasters use a monthly paid service that hosts their media files and submits them to the small handful of podcast search engines that exist, maybe even gives them a boost in the algorithm or whatever, and which could delete them at any moment should the podcaster stop paying. the only people who want to think about technology less than creators are consumers. approximately 0% of podcast listeners even know what an RSS feed is. if you don't like Apple (or worse, they don't like you), and people have to find the setting to paste a URL into their podcast app to listen to your podcast, an even smaller percentage of no one will listen to it than otherwise would have. "find us wherever you get your podcasts" is just a fancy way of saying "get to our website by googling our company name" (which more and more companies are doing in their ads). if you become someone Google doesn't want to appear in their results, or you're not big enough for google to notice you exist, your dream is over before it starts.

I'm honestly baffled how anyone can talk about the world of public podcasts being open and radical when they're like one industry cooperation away from supporting DRM.

also antennapod ftw.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I have no idea where I get my podcasts; I hit Add Podcast in AntennaPod, it goes somewhere and I get a podcast subscription somehow. Can't explain that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Whenever you get your podcasts, is it's not RSS, it's not podcasts.

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