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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Furry Phone yay

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Tough choice. Personally I wouldve taken display out over a macro camera.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I really want phones like this to actually work and to succeed, but there are so many things these companies have to get just right -- it's a huge undertaking.

Releasing a phone that's admittedly unfinished seems really risky. People are getting sick of unfinished products being tossed at them for full price, with the empty promises from the company that those missing features will be added in later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Headphone jack 3.5mm waterproof

It has a fucking headphone jack?!? I might actually consider this as my next device.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just use a $5 USB-C to 3.5mm DAC?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I have the Samsung one right now, but the problem with it is that I can't charge while listening to music and I ain't gonna sacrifice sound quality with a 2 in 1 dongle.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Furry Phone? Is this going to make me want to fuck a gazelle? Again?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These specs actually seem really solid for the price point, I'm glad to see decent alternative smartphones popping up that actually have some power.

What's bugging me is the lack of information about the software. Apparently this is Android with a layer like Hallium to run a Debian userspace on top? And yet they don't advertise that fact. It's just a little off putting that this product seems to be aimed at Linux/general tech enthusiasts, yet the company seemed to miss the fact that those customers tend to really like knowing what they're running under the hood.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I thought $500 for only 6GB of ram is really disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I use maybe 3-4gb at any given time, without limiting myself. I personally don't need heaps of RAM, 6gb is enough to have some overhead for me.

I haven't looked at too many prices recently, I've had the same phone for a while, but this doesn't seem to unreasonable imo, especially considering this is the first product from a small, new company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow 3-4 is great. My current android phone is using 9Gb out of 12. It's insane. I have no idea what's using it all.

I hope that since this phone isn't running android, 6gb will be enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It should be. With zram, I can use similar software even on a 2 GB RAM device somewhat comfortably, unless I open too many tabs in Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it better than PinePhone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I don't think so

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Huzzah! A Linux phone with specs that wouldn't have looked pathetic five years ago!

Actually, those specs are comparable to the Pixel 7a I'm writing this on at a slightly cheaper price! Has the era of the Linux phone begun?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

According to the Librem people: this is Android kernel (& other low level stuff) with Debian userspace, not a true Debian phone. https://social.librem.one/@dos/112686932765355105

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

So, not the droid we Are looking for... :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least it might actually get delivered, unlike the librem 5.... /s (but not really)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s already delivered - a Mastodon user got one.

But getting an OEM to make a phone under your brand is easy. The real question is how long will they keep the software maintained?

These people seem like passionate Linux enthusiasts, so one can hope.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

A phone for furis? How nice :3

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So it will have good mainline linux support?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

No. It uses Hallium (Android kernel, basically).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I mean Android is not magic, but a huge step up from desktop Linux regarding security, minimalism, battery life, ...

They also just use an LTS kernel, and I even found a Vulkan package.

The simple, core principle, security without compromises, is not hard, everythig is there.

And at the same time you can fix many of the Google issues, privacy invasiveness, design that sucks...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We've tried this before. Didn't work out very well from what I remember.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes ideas are ahead of their time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this is the case here. Like, this is dead on arrival in most of Europe without WhatsApp. My phone is my most important device. I cannot access my bank account without it. But banks will not allow me to use that phone as a factor for authentication.

5 or 10 years ago you could have forced those companies to either support something third party or develop for a new phone os but now we are stuck with android and ios until something really messed up happens to our economy or until one of them really fucks up and gets into legal trouble to a point where they can't sell phones or services anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I personally refuse to use anything that requires that I install a proprietary app. F-droid or the highway

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Yes but then you are half a percent of the user base that a new phone manufacturer would want to attract. And in Germany at least it is literally impossible to have a social life outside of the nerd bubble if you don't use WhatsApp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. But remember that with the new law, third party apps can send and receive WhatsApp messages now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And you can use matrix bridges or whatsapp web via phone as a server at home

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yet another Linux phone with subpar specs. That processor is quite underwhelming even compared to Google's Tensor G1, a proc that many regard as crap as is and it beats this Dimensity 900 handily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think about creating a phone out of a raspberry Pi compute module and include a dedicated NPU in the build 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That would be just as proprietary as Android

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago
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