If it leads to an actual change - everyone wins.
But I doubt anything will change, with Bibi being the snake he is.
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Such a clear example of religion as a tool of power. They are cowards using religion as a shield. They scream and scream about how evil everyone else is but expect those others to do all the killing for them. The killing that they demand. Cowards. Dumb too. Like so dumb words can't even cover it.
Note that there is two separate streams in there. There is the orthodox Jews that use religion as a shield like you say and are avid fans of Israeli fascism but dont want to get their hands dirty.
And there is orthodox Jews that are very outspoken against Israeli fascism, sometimes going as far as rejecting Israeli statehood as a whole and demanding a Palestinian state where people have equal rights regardless of religion or ethnicity and were land has to be bought and cannot be stolen by murdering the rightful owners.
Good. The ultra orthodox are a drain on Israeli society and culture. All they do is take from the state.
No more fighting against boxes of aid for these warriors.
Being blissfully unaware of Israel’s “culture”, could someone explain who the ultra-orthodox are and why it affects Mileikowsky?
Bibi has a coalition government as his party didn’t get enough votes on their own in the last election. He cozied up with some far right parties to make said government. A lot of those parties have a support base made up of ultra conservative (ultra-orthodox) Jews. Essentially they’re the Jewish version of evangelical Christians. They’re insular, follow the Torah to exact letter of the law, and up until this point they were exempt from conscription as they see their service to the state as study. Many in Israel hold them in contempt for not pitching in for Israel’s security. Essentially Bibi’s coalition partners may quit the government if this comes into effect which could force new elections.
Note that they are not following the Torah. There is many orthodox Jews who strongly reject the zionist project as the fascism that it is and see it as a grave sin. Those people are merely abusing the religion for their own material gain while showing no understanding of the Torah.
follow the Torah to exact letter of the law,
Is that even possible? From what I've read about Judaism, the common joke seems to be ask a question to 3 rabbis and you'll get 5 answers.
Two solutions to that problem:
- Choose the answer you like. Those other rabbis are wrong.
- Avoid breaking anyone's rules (this is, I believe, roughly the actual method). If one rabbi says it's forbidden to spin counter clockwise while dancing and another says it's fine, don't spin counter clockwise because maybe the first rabbi is right and the second just said it wasn't required, not that you had to do it. There's no electricity in the Biblical rules, but it's kind like fire and there are rules about fire on Shabbat, so they're not supposed to use electricity on Shabbat. It might be overkill, but better safe than sorry.
Also who knows how many loopholes. Apparently the word of God is very precise and is meant to be followed to the letter, except when it's inconvenient, in which case you hang strings between your house and your neighbors' so you can wander the neighborhood when you're supposed to stay home.
I mean the Bible is like that too and fundamentalist Christians exist no?
naturally given that the Torah is part of the Bible
I appreciate that, thank you.
The other important bit is the Ultra Orthodox are, in general, the most Anti Palestinian block. They are 40% of the "settlers" in the West Bank.
Oh no 😔
Lemme just grab the world's smallest piano.
It's "world's smallest violin" where I'm from. Are there regional/cultural variations on this saying?
Isn't that a cello?
Nope I just misremembered.
LoL.
The glockenspiel thread was worth it though.
That's a xylophone
It's not wood, so it's a glockenspiel.
I had to Google that word, but it's legit
One part, now their lives are on the line for all the saber rattling they scream about.
One part now their kids get to talk to others in the barracks unless they find a way for ultra-ortho only batallions.
ultra-orthi battalions
That's what they've been doing. They station them in the West Bank and they we're doing so many atrocities that even Biden considered sanctioning the specific battalions , he didn't actually do it because he's a spineless coward, but he did consider.
For the sake of Palestinians I hope they split up these nut jobs.
IIRC they plan to have ultra-ortho only battalions so they can keep doing their ultra-ortho shit while fighting.
A rare Riker for Netanyahu and the ultra-Orthodox.
Should be less rare, but I'll Riker where I can.