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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (4 children)

There should really be a law, requiring a certain list of mechanical things to exist on the car. So far, it's only the emergency turn signals, and what, the mirrors? The door handles absolutely need to be on that list

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Whenever essential functions (e.g. access) are powered, they're supposed to have manual overrides. I'm pretty sure this is a regulatory requirement even here in the States where we're stupid and regulatory agencies are mostly captured.

So WTF happened, Tesla? Where's the manual override for when the battery fails?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's for if you're inside, a mechanical access has to exist on the outside as well, no?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (5 children)

No. You just need to be able to exit without power. Getting back in mechanically isn't a requirement.

It should be, but it's not.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can also "jump" the car to open it via a 12V access port in the front.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, doesn't help much in case of actual emergency does it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I don't disagree there!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Then break the fucking window if it's an actual emergency.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's much quicker than just unlocking the door with your fucking key, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Agree. The only worry is the flying glass might hurt the child.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They did

The child was safely removed from the car after firefighters used an ax to smash through a window

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know.

My response was to the previous comment.

In a non Tesla, if someone is locked in a car, what happens? There isn't some secret "let me in" button. You just break a window. This is a dumb story.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

I mean, presumably if I'm standing outside my car with a key, I just unlock the door and open it. Can't do that with a dead tesla.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If someone is locked in your car and you're the owner you simply use the key and open the door, no need to break anything, except in a Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Really interesting design decision. Was the main battery also dead? I'm guessing not. There's a step-down converter under the rear seat that outputs 12-16 volts, Tesla could probably have fairly easily set the car up to power the doors from that when the auxiliary 12V battery dies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Probably would still need the 12V battery to have enough charge to close the connection to the high voltage battery that would power the step down converter.

But yeah it seems dumb to me that most EVs don't keep the 12V battery topped up from the high voltage battery somehow while the car is parked, but I'm not an electrical engineer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My 1998 Honda Civic SE hatchback was all manual. Manual windows with the canks, manual door locks, manual steering (no power steering), no braking assist, no assist of ANY kind in fact, and a manual transmission. It was basically an engine, four wheels and a steering wheel.

If EV manufacturers could make cars that are closer to my old Civic, with the only difference being the engine being swapped for an electric motor, I would switch in a heartbeat. For now I'll stick with my 2010 Mazda 3, which I barely use except for the occasional trip to my family or friends who are out of the city or to do my groceries once a week. Until cars start using manual controls for essentials like door handles and locks, audio systems and temperature control, I want none of it.

I'm already having trouble with touch screen tablets when I'm not driving, let alone when I need to focus on the damn road.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

i think kia ev6 is as manual as electric cars get. you can adjust the climate control with knobs, and move the seat manually!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you but I'm still hesitant because I like my manual transmission

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