this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2024
891 points (100.0% liked)

196

16224 readers
3089 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

you have as much agency over being born with "a magic power greater than any special" and being born "the descendant of a SUPER Special Royal Family"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I liked this story better the first time, when it was called Moses

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

So, certain people are magically entitled to power? I feel like I've heard that one before...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Ugh star wars

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I also dislike when the underdog genuinly starts off as an underdog and is just given a cheat code which is played off as "hard work and determination".

Like the main character of My Hero Academia. A person born without super powers in a world full of super heroes. You get excited at how he will overcome his limitations..... and the answer to that is be given the strongest power in that world and get even more super powers on top of that.

It is especially annoying how the surrounding characters act like it isn't a cheat code.

Funny thing is in that universe there is a character called Lemillion who had powers with drawbacks and had to learn to take advantage of them. A true underdog making the most of the cards he was dealth with. He should have been the MC of the show.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think what you want is called Worm.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Spoken like a true nighteye

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Mind you I am not saying Lemillion should have been given one for all. Just see that he should have been the main character. One for all could be a mcguffin for the heroes to keep out of the hands of the villains instead of using it like a cheat code.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This central idea is why I hate dune.

Having a so called prophesied savior capable of insane things coming from a distant royal family of some space empire is too stupid to believe in.

You can't be both the underdog and the king at the same time, especially when your own supporters treat themselves as expendable.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever actually read it? The prophecies were deliberately spread over the universe by the Bene Gesserit. The department that does that is called the Missionaria Protectiva, they do that all over the universe so their members can manipulate the locals to be safe wherever they end up. This isn't supposed to glorify those prophecies, it's demystifying them to the point where religion as a whole is showcased as a mere tool to control the masses in later books. It's supposed to criticise the thing you're criticising.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

OP is why we can't have nice things. Because people will ignore things that should be obvious. So we're left with everything softball pitched to the lowest common denominator

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

I mean, that's the point of Dune? The 'prophesies' aren't real, they're seeded by the Bene Gesserit, the same group that spent millennia breeding the 'savior'. And, he's not meant to really be a savior, but their catspaw.

But also, he's definitely not actually a savior, on account of all the death he brings. It's complicated, but overall a deconstruction of white savior narratives and similar stories.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasnt he like a test tube baby bred specifically to be the Messiah tho.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

The tail end of a selective breeding program, but yes. The Bene Gesserit were (according to some internal hypotheses) belived to have been manipulated to expect the outcome later down the line, featuring an Atraides--Harkonnen child. But they were wrong.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

You can't be both the underdog and the king at the same time

So, you hate the New Testament, too?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

This captures why I don't enjoy Harry Potter (in addition to JKR being a shitter)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the fanfic sequel the poo people are kept addicted on magic-suppressing opioids and mind-dulling cigarettes provided by the Special owned industrial pharmaceutical companies. It's been this way so long

Eveyone knows people who don't smoke can't be trusted. The temple priests say so every Sunday service.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Captain Picard drops by, breaks the opioid machine, peaces out.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, no, you see, because she grew up as a Poo Person she now understand the world from their point and realizes how much they've been abused, so she pledges to lead and create a new society because it all turns out to have been a big misunderstanding. Then Poo People learn magitek and we get a sequel with the spin that now they are the oppressors, followed by a movie adaptation that completely ends up killing a cult classic.

load more comments
view more: next ›