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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

And that window? 45 days lol (or 43 days based on the article release date).

Fucking click bait bullshit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

What now? Will Boeing have to pay SpaceX to get them back down?

Looks like the quality of the Boeing space department has caught up with their planes...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh the headline is straight up lies? Publish it anyways.

We complain about ai being a bullshit generator, but I think we couldn’t have come up with anything better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So, the people who were contempting of the "insignificance" of all those leaks .. were actually correct?

How startling!

/s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, they aren't correct. The leaks are still insignificant, and this article is sensationalizing a pretty mundane reason for the return trip delay. They're only "stranded" insofar as NASA wants more time to collect data, and the spacewalk they were planning to do just that had to be postponed because one of the astronauts couldn't get comfortable in their EVA suit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

At least we know where they are keeping the whistle blowers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

After all those issues, I am not sure if I would want to travel back to earth in that Boeing contraption.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nonsense. They aren't stranded and could leave right now if they needed to. The part they are collecting data on isn't even made to reenter anyways. They aren't in any danger and they still have plenty of docking time left.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

2024 news. Even science news.

We truly live in post-truth era.

[–] [email protected] 147 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This article seems to be playing up the idea that the astronauts are in some sort of danger, but NASA has repeatedly stressed that is not the case. These extensions are for research and information gathering, so improvements can be made that properly address the issue in the future.

I've also lost trust in Boeing, but a lot of the reporting surrounding this mission is starting to get annoying. It almost feels like they want a disaster just so they can write about it.

I like this article on the most recent docking extension more. https://www.space.com/starliner-astronaut-mission-landing-delay-july-2024

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Bubble headed bleach blonde comes on at five

She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not good. Hopefully there can be a rescue mission if need be.Also Boeing needs to stop fing up. They keep killing people...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m sure SpaceX will happily arrange for a rescue mission at Boeing’s expense!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And then he'll call everyone at Boeing a paedophile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'm sure SpaceX would happily do a rescue mission on their own dime purely in exchange for the publicity they'd get for coming to Boeing's rescue like that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This also might be the thing the first astronauts warned us about a private space industry. Sure, they can innovate faster and cheaper, but not as safely. There's a 60 minutes interview with musk crying because his astronaut idols didn't see eye to eye with him on privatizing space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the first astronauts warned us about a private space industry. Sure, they can innovate faster and cheaper, but not as safely.

Crew Dragon: 0

Space Shuttle: 14

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't buy that at all. If you read about Apollo, and before that, you'll see that simply this stuff is hard and many times you have things "half-assed" and just take the risk. Another case is the Space Shuttle..

With that said I think Boeing has been too unreliable for manned space flight. I don't trust much the "we're just taking time to gather more data" and this to me is the bad part about private companies: they have no compulsion to be truthful to the public.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is not the first time that Boeing did something space-related for the military or NASA. The big difference is that while on earlier contracts they just asked for more money time and again, this time they are on a fixed budget and have to show results before getting paid.

And they cannot claim it was not enough money to get people up and down safely. From the same pot, SpaceX got about half as much as Boeing got. Boeing cried foul about this "wasting" money on an unexperienced upstart! And now look where both companies are with their project: SpaceX is happily going up and down like an elevator, and Boeing, with twice the money and years of delay, launched people into space with a known-defekt spaceship.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I in no way want to diminish the achievements of the original astronauts but that doesn't mean they're always right. SpaceX has shown that it can work.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I suspect SpaceX benefited from the closer scrutiny they received from NASA and regulatory agencies, especially after Musk smoked pot on Joe Rogan‘s podcast. I’m sure he would’ve liked to “innovate” more by cutting corners but wasn’t able to because of the scrutiny, so they had to do a better job of dotting their I’s and crossing their T’s. In contrast Boeing has spent several decades trying to convince the government they don’t need close scrutiny because they know what they’re doing. As the builder of some of the 20th century’s best-regarded aircraft and spacecraft, they’d largely been given that lax oversight by the 2010s. We now see the legacy of this, as lax oversight allowed them to cut the corners everyone assumed SpaceX wanted to cut, with hundreds of people dead as a result.

When the Commercial Crew Program was first announced everyone assumed Boeing would easily ace the project and SpaceX would struggle, maybe even fail. Now I’m just hoping we don’t see two more dead courtesy Boeing before the year’s end.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

I hope the astronauts make it back okay.