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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought she made some very good points, but the quote in the title makes no sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I simply took the title of the video. :shrug:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, she said that. But what she said there just doesn't make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

While watching how much better AI has gotten at analyzing video, I got super creeped out, about surveillance used incorrectly.

https://youtu.be/_mkyL0Ww_08?si=IOhroXe-TaRVYl5Y

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Why is Signal so reliant on Google? It's not even in F-Droid

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

They are vehemently against self hosting as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is a fork on F-Droid that isn't reliant on Google push (it uses Unified Push) called Molly. I donate to both Molly and Signal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It is better than nothing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Signal is using Google Push messaging, but it could be used with websocket. And officially it's not on fdroid because they don't want forks of their app

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yet the Molly fork supports UnifiedPush so I can reuse my connection with mf XMPP server to deliver notification from a server I control. Folks have asked for UnifiedPush or MQTT as an alternative to having multiple persistent socket connections open on your device, but Signal doesn’t seem to care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How did you get Unified Push working? Last time I checked it required dedicated server side software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You have to proxy their socket. It’s dumb, & Signal is bad. Using FSM is bad for privacy & limits to only Android/iOS primary devices is a slap-in-the-face for users wish to bleak out of the duopoly owned by two ad companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

How would that prevent you from forking the app? F-droid isn't a repository for the code of the app. I don't think this is related at all.

I don't actually know the reason why it's not on F-droid but I assume it has some historical reason. It has never been on F-drroid since Text-secure. Moxy Marlinspike was strictly against it afaik. If somebody has more detail on it, feel free to share it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Because today if you find a Signal app on Fdroid you're sure that it's nonofficial, on the play store only one app is allowed, the official.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

You're not allowed to upload apps with proprietary blobs. Google Push services is a proprietary blob.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm guessing its not fully open source, but I don't actually know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

The App is open source, but they include google push services, which is not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is fully open-source. The distribution of the application is completely unrelated. You can still read the code and verify the build you're running.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How else is AI supposed to grow? It's supposed to observe everything in existence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe it shouldn't grow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's why I'm not exactly a big fan of AI. The possibility that it can get out of control is worrisome.

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