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Today EU governments will not adopt their position on the EU regulation on “combating child sexual abuse”, the so-called chat control regulation, as planned, which would have heralded the end of private messages and secure encryption. The Belgian Council presidency postponed the vote at short notice.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Honestly that was a headline that I expected to see. It is a small victory but how long before it gets reintroduced? They will continue to push until everyone has moved on and it passes unnoticed. Or they might do what the US does and put it into a "must pass" infrastructure bill that gets voted on at 3am to avoid the press

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I kind of followed Ylva Johansson on this issue and more. I am 100 % sure that what she was saying and what she belived is completely different. She is smart. She was also completely destroyed when confronted with IT security people. She is really in the pocket. Anyryone with some opsec knowledge knows it is nothing about child porn, there are millions of ways to distribute that shit either way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do see this if you got a Swedish vpn connection , sorry could not find it elsewhere https://www.svtplay.se/video/84d7ad5/30-minuter/eu-kommissionaren-ylva-johansson?id=84d7ad5 Nikka system also completely destroyed her arguments , cant find it right now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Great, but wasn't it the case that majority in the EC supported it? Did it suddenly become a minority position?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

When they realized it was insane. Congratulations! Democracy isn't dead

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Success means passing legislation affirming digital rights in a way that makes such surveillance legislation illegal.

This wasn't a win, it was a small setback.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It's success. Not huge success, but success. It maintains a mediocre status quo in the face of the possibility of it worsening.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

That's the current status quo. New legislation can always override old legislation. The only way to fully prevent these proposals would be to enshrine the right to encryption in a new EU treaty (which requires unanimity) and since the national governments are the ones pushing for this while the European Parliament keeps telling to fuck off, it's not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

They gonna try again... Don't celebrate. They will like slip in during the next 911 bullshit circle jerk, when normies are most likely to sell their own child for "security" like boomers did

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or during some soccer/football event ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Euro 2024 is in a few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep, perfectly acceptable to be happy now, but do not let your guard down. The USA has done the same shit with trying to end civilian access to true encryption how many times?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

According to them... Not enough, until they get it done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Time for another infrastructure bill