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Never buy .xyz (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I just wanted to post this here because I want to help you all and hurt gen.xyz as much as possible. I had a .xyz domain through njal.la which I used to host jellyfin, homeassistant, and other basic things for friends and family. My domain recently became inaccessible without any notice. After a while of troubleshooting, I found that it had been reported to xyz as abuse, and they must have done zero investigation whatsoever before serverholding my domain. I thought about opening a ticket with xyz to get my domain back, but realized that I no longer wish to buy from some shitty company that will take down any site without warning. Bought a .com domain since they are somewhat reputable, and I would advise everyone here to never buy a .xyz domain. Angry rant over.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, don‘t use it for any mail servers. Spam Assassin gives a negative score by default on *.xyz domains. Stupid as shit, but I had to learn the hard way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Xyz domains always look sketchy, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agree. I just got it for fun and because it was cheap. I used it for my disposable e-mail addresses but now switched to .org

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I know someone who had a Minecraft server which used a .net domain (most Minecraft servers do use .net, even one I hosted did) and he renamed it once and used an .xyz domain and it suddenly looked like a sketchy Russian porn site

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I use .com for my seedbox.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Shit. I have my peraonal domain hosted on .xyz for email. Guess time to migrate. Any TLD suggestions?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most email providers will automatically put emails coming from .xyz to spam. I'd advise against using any "new TLDs", if you can. But if you must, avoid those that are frequently used for spamming. A lot of spam detectors will already score your emails as suspicious just for the TLD.

See for example, https://github.com/apache/spamassassin/blob/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/pds/20_ntld.cf

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No wonder why some reported my mail fall into spam dispite I rarely sent any. God. I had it for almost 10 years already, and migrating would be painful.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you live in Europe, .eu

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

If you live on the Cook Islands you get to use .co.ck!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

.eu and your local tld are often quite a bit cheaper too!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most of the entire internet cannot run without Cloudflare for a reason. Just buy directly from the source.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Cloudflare is not the source…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Buy your country's local domain and support the local economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Any UK registrar recommended?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

@HumanPerson @selfhosted Thanks for the heads up, several times I was this close to buy one. Glad I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

I received so much spam and abuse of my network from .xyz domains that they are fully blocked in every conceivable way from being accessed or accessing my network.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Eh while it sucks, registrars and web hosts get so many abuse reports that sometimes they just err on the side of caution and don't investigate as thoroughly as you'd like.

Of course it also depends a lot on various things like what type of complaint, how much money you spend with them, account history, complaint source, etc.

They should be able to tell you what they had a problem with and give you a chance to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Locks can happen by registrar (I.e.: ninjala, cloudflare, namecheap etc.) or registry (I.e.: gen.xyz, identity digital, verisign, etc.).

Typically, registry locks cannot be resolved through your registrar, and the registrant may need to work with the registry to see about resolving the problem. This could be complicated with Whois privacy as you may not be considered the registrant of the domain.

In all cases, most registries do not take domain suspensions lightly, and generally tend to lock only on legal issues. Check your Whois record’s EPP status codes to get hints as to what may be happening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm on a new domain now anyway. I will be more careful on this one, but I suspect they just didn't look into it. I do really appreciate that you seem to be both knowledgeable and not an asshole. That seems to be a rare combination to find in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can buy .xyz domains from places other than gen.xyz. I have mine from namecheap and I haven't had any issues in like 10 years with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I have mine through namecheap too, although the name server is from cloudflare now. The only issue i’ve had was some shitty forums preventing registrations from anything that wasn’t @gmail.com

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I had mine through njal.la. It was the registry itself that locked it though. I switched registrar too after njalla took a long time to respond to my question with a vague, unhelpful, and short response.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Sounds like an issue with your registrar more so than the domain authority?

Do you have any information to distinguish that?

Does anyone here know if they are the same entity?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I didn't get the domain through gen.xyz, they are the registry (not registrar) for the xyz tld. They are the ones who control every xyz domain which is why I warned against them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are indeed the registrar. Would have expected more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

They may be a registrar, but not the one I used. They were the registry that locked my domain.

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