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  • Microsoft inadvertently highlighted the benefits of using a local account over a Microsoft account on Windows 11 in a recent support page update.
  • Using a local account allows for offline sign-in, is independent of cloud services, and limits settings, files, and applications to a single device, enhancing privacy.
  • Despite these benefits, Microsoft requires internet access or workarounds for the initial setup of Windows 11, making it challenging to use a local account from the start.
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[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Garbage article. Headline interprets like Microsoft slipped or leaked something. The article discusses why the "pros" are actually "cons".

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"as explained by Microsoft on accident"?! Call me what you will but I would think the author writing articles should know it's "by accident"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

You’re not wrong or anything, but “on accident” is used commonly in American English, so the author isn’t wrong either. I think it might have come from an association with “on purpose”, as in “I didn’t do it on purpose, I did it on accident.”

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), the rules of language only matter if people actually stick to them. Language shifts over time no matter who kicks or screams about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's a junk article, likely written by AI in part or entirely. Paragraphs and paragraphs of nothing just to reference a support article they found, all the while subtly implying a Windows account is a really good thing to use and everyone should use it.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Since they mentioned the workarounds but didn't explain them, I'm copying my comment from another post a couple of weeks ago.

Lemmy probably isn’t the target audience for this, here’s the steps to bypass the MS account requirement when setting up W11:

Configure your keyboard, but before you select your wifi network press Shift+(Fn)+F10 to open Command Prompt.

Type in the following command and press enter. Your computer will reboot: oobe\bypassnro

After the reboot, configure your keyboard and location settings, and click the option at the bottom of the page to say that you don’t want to connect to the internet

Click the link on the next page to “Continue with limited setup”, then follow the prompts to enter a username and password.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

or write your windows ISO using rufus and check the "no MS account" checkbox.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good to know. thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks for reminding me about this!

We used to use that method for the company I was working for. We would setup laptops in advance and they were in the early process of setting up intune. Since we didn't have a user account, we'd use your method to continue setup to get to the desktop.

I think we'd then run commands in pwershell to have the machine appear on intune.

It was a good few years ago and it was a very annoying, arduous time. They worked out the kinks eventually and that was no longer required.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Thr FN part is notable if you have a recent computer. A lot of laptops and keyboards ship out with media keys as the default on the top row now, and you must hold the FN key to use F10. Lot of people don't realize this and think Shift+F10 isn't working.

Possibly an easier option: you can let it connect to the internet, and then when it tells you to set up a Microsoft account, click on "Other sign in options" (or whatever it says beneath the text box). Then select "Domain Join instead". It'll let you use a local account, expecting you to join it to a domain later, then you just...don't join it to a domain.

Always be sure to use something like O&O ShutUp10 or Winaero Tweaker after you reach the desktop, so you can shut off all the bullshit, otherwise it will keep harassing you to make an account. I think you need to uninstall OneDrive too, to stop it hijacking the address bar in file explorer with constant nagging to set it up

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Good info, but everyone should know that Windows 11 Home can not join domains, and the option will not be there. Only Pro, Enterprise, and Education versions can do that.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Someone asked Copilot to come up with that text...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you talking about the Support article, or this WindowsCentral article?

Because I would say that's true of both.

This article is heavily inflated/extended with pablum that could come straight from Copilot, and frankly, it seems more concerned with listing the benefits of a Microsoft account than reporting on the support article.

It's AI junk all the way down.

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