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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

this is all bullshit btw, it won't do anything for thirdparty clients and yt-dlp for example.

This is because blocking is entirely client side now, with no way of youtube determining whether or not its happened at all.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (8 children)

They’re testing to embed the ads in the stream and not the usual switch to a different video

It definitely affects third party client if now they get a file of a video that now has 30 seconds of ad content at the beginning

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Finding and innovating new ways to fuck people with ads.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Good. This is how YouTube dies. This is how Google dies. This is how competitors/alternatives are born. Stop fighting to make Google services useable against every effort of theirs. Let them drive people away to make (or discover) alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

How can a competitor that is courting people that aren’t revenue sources compete

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (36 children)

Do you have any idea how many billions with a B it would take to even start a viable, proper competitor to youtube? and how quickly that capital B could end up becoming a Capital T?

I hate people who keep screaming about let youtube die and alternatives will be born.

Youtube has been shit for years. No ones made an alternative that is viable.

Any an all alternatives are subscription based services, and tiny. Like Floatplane, Utreon and whatever the gunfocused one is that I cant remember off the top of my head, if it even still exists.

Anyone that has that kinda money are probably already in bed with googles capitalistic hellscape ideals for hte internet and not interested in going against them.

Creating competitors for things like Reddit and Facebook are relatively easy. Creating a competitor for something that probably accumulates hundreds of terabytes, if not more, per hour? That takes insane amounts of storage, and bandwidth, and overhead, and everything else that costs more than any regular person could ever have a hope of even having a wet dream over.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It has been THE viteo platform for literally decades. There is so much content there; it would be a tremendous effort to direct that elsewhere.

And that other site would quickly succumb to storage and bandwidth costs. What options could exist?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Nebula is interesting. You pay for a subscription, which funds creators and platform costs.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The only option left would be PeerTube if it federated with every other PeerTube instance by default, like Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wishfull thinking. Sadly the truth.
It's nearly impossible to have that high of a federation and preventing a centralization to not loose any videos (except if the creators chose so).

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

i would rather have video go black for the duration of ad than watch that filth

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Finally a use case where AI/Machine learning would absolutely make sense. If we can have AI that can generate text or images, imitate people's voices or write code, we can also have a lightweight model that can detect ads and skip them during playback. There's a model trained on SponsorBlock data for detecting sponsored segments https://github.com/xenova/sponsorblock-ml
I'm sure that we can have something similar but for embedded ads.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's called a classifier and it could easily detect an embedded ad. The issue is now everyone needs to run it on their hardware to detect and this will cost some electricity.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to run AI on phones and low-end hardware though. It's not that easy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Give it 5 more years in hardware performance improvements and software/model optimization and I don't see a problem. The important part is that improvements are made public for everyone to use and improve upon instead of letting openai and microsoft take the whole cake

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It already exists. Although it's not AI, and mostly works best when using channel logos to work out the ad breaks.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I accidentally watched YouTube the other night without adblock, OMFG what an experience.

If I can't watch with adblock I'll just stop using it, it's only a rabit hole to waste time for me anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Same, just like when reddit killed 3rd party apps

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