No they shouldn't
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
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Phil Spencer holding a steamdeck and looking over at a switch: After all, why not? Why shouldn't I have a handheld system.
If they can't pull this off as an ARM device and recompile all the games to run on it, then don't bother.
There's nothing they can really bring to this that the Steam Deck hasn't already done better.
Yeah. Not interested with anything that made by microsoft.
Well the mouse and keyboards are actually pretty good...
And their gamepads for Xbox were pretty good too. Past tense, because those of the Xbox Series X suck (including the "Elite").
I mean if you get an xbox series x/s controller used off eBay for ~$30 and then the armor x pro
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/3256804278375316.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt
You have a mad decent gyro capable controller with four back buttons. Basically the controller Microsoft should have made.
Probably the best deal on a premium gyro capable controller on the market right now so shrugs.
If Microsoft stuck with what it already does, it would be better. They already have cloud streaming technology which makes playing games on their ecosystem possible. Having a separate handheld console would complicate things. I just don't see the appeal.
They are risking Linux becoming an actual thing in the portable, desktop & living room spaces.
I said this earlier in the thread but I am very confident at this point that Microsoft already lost this battle to Linux in the longterm. Particularly because Linux operating system devs don’t care about AI and Microsoft is obsessed with it like all other dumb massive tech companies and honestly it is going to lead nowhere in terms of providing a useful basis for an operating system especially if the foundation you are working from sucks (glares at Microsoft and Windows). So volunteer Linux devs actually have a huge lead here even though Microsoft has wayyyyy more resources and money because Microsoft is firehosing it all at the stupidest shit while they fire core team members left and right destroying their longterm capability to create quality products.
You really have to understand AI as the dream come true from sociopathic tech CEOs standpoint, they can finally get rid of the humans, fire most of the programmers and suck up so much data that they can create an UBER AI that knows all…. except reality doesn’t work like that. No matter, reality is kept safely at bay always at least 4 kilometers from the Microsoft C-suite at all times.
The shift just hasn’t happened yet like a dead tree limb hanging on until that gust of wind comes along and the whole limb comes crashing down abruptly weeks after the storm that weakened it.
Yes, devs work on Linux. Now, since the Deck, people (2%) are starting to game on Linux. The next battlefields are the desktop and the living room. The latter could be solved by a Deck 2 (and a new dock) with E-GPU support. That is trickier, there needs to happen a lot of things, and is much more complex.
Roflmao at Linux winning the desktop space.
People thought the same about portable, yet they did things for it to happen. If a company as inluential as Valve does the same for desktop, it could become a thing. I don't mean dominate, I mean like a noteworthy event, just like the Deck.
Peak g*mer comment.
I'm assuming it's gonna be a lame attempt to capitalize on the steam deck's success with hope that popular DRM game exclusives will drive sales.
Although I'm pretty sure the MSI Claw already proved that won't work. Even if it had been good in hardware, the addition of only a few select games didn't justify the cost or performance of windows on a handheld.
Unless they put some actual development and research behind it, which they won't, it'll probably last only a few years before they have to cancel due to sunk cost and lack of game sales.
They'd need to properly place DirectX with a clean NT kernel on some good hardware, and make a completely new (and usable) UI like Xbox without sacrificing battery power, which even the deck struggled to accomplish.
Considering how cruddy windows 11 has been, Xbox nuking teams left & right, and MSFT throwing all their budget at AI, I just don't see it happening.
I consider this comment naive. Microsoft selling a powerful arm based handheld might be extremely successful and totally viable. They have already done the rnd for x86 backwards compatibility on arm and have a close relationship with Qualcomm.
On top of this, I doubt many of the Steam Deck's current competitors could have sold at a loss like Valve did (IIRC, they sold at a loss or at least pretty close to it). Microsoft, however, definitely has the spare money as a larger corp if they decided to really back the XBox/Gaming division. Price-wise, they could compete. If they're in the same pricing ballpark, manage a reasonable quality handheld, and can promise perfect windows compatibility with games, that might be something.
I guess but Microsoft truly feels like it is abandoning any commitment to making Windows function well for users.
They basically seem to think people have no choice and that they can focus their entire business on turning Windows into a surveillance advertisement platform.
In this environment, launching a windows handheld would be a laughable joke honestly.
The numbers don’t show it yet, but in the longterm Windows has catastrophically lost the home user operating system market and they deserve to for their awful stewardship of the market.
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