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[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago (16 children)

I can't afford an EV, but if I was in the market for one, my search would start with something like "anything but Tesla".

Can't imagine why they're struggling, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

I'm definitely interested in the Equinox and Bolt. I do wish GM didn't lock people into their shitty infotainment platform though. I also wish they had a NACS charger instead.

I would never consider a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got a 2023 Bolt earlier this year. I just connect my phone wirelessly for maps and music and don't touch most other things on the screen. I LOVE the heated steering wheel for winter and cooling seats for summer. That particular package is well worth getting.

Definitely DO NOT give OnStar your credit card info though. The dealership will sit you in the car and initiate the OnStar call before you know what's happening. Just refuse to give credit card info, the extended trial whatever isn't worth the hassle of OnStar charging you when they said they wouldn't. I ended up having to do a chargeback because OnStar straight up lied to me about when charges would occur.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I honestly think Kia has the best ev lineup at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd be more apt to look into term if Hyundai/Kia didn't have several child labor violations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's so hard to buy anything now-a-days without being tied to some kind of labor violation.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but then you're a target for teens to try to steal a car.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That only affects Kia models before 2015

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I'm sure teens seeing a TikTok trend are being very careful to check the shape of the car matches the affected models before smashing a window.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Who knew pissing off leftist people by being a douchebag when your company sells electric vehicles that are typically championed by said leftists could hurt your sales? So mysterious.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Yep. I was unironically going to buy a Cybertruck… then Elon came out of the fascist closet while Tesla’s QC/CS problems escalated… now there is no way I will ever touch anything Tesla or related to Musk.

Waiting for Aptera now, but would also consider Rivian in a pinch.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

I’ve seen a few Cybertrucks parked around the city now. They literally look like something either the fascist, militant law enforcement or the Uber-wealthy would drive around in, in a dystopian future.

Definitely designed to keep you safe from the violent peasant class, especially should you need to run over a few of them in the process.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How are a cybertruck and an aptera your two contenders? They're complete opposites.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Fair question. The answer is timing.

I was a huge fan of Aptera the first time around, in the mid 2000s. I was crushed to see them fold simply because the government yanked funding for any vehicles that didn’t have 4 wheels (funding that Tesla did get, which is why they survived).

The Cybertruck was announced in 2019, while I heard about Aptera’s resurrection only in late 2021. Until recently, Aptera’s second attempt was looking really tenuous, too. The only just secured full funding to enter full scale production.

Basically, I like practicality. When it was announced, Cybertruck sounded like it would be very practical… rough, tough, indestructible, and electric. We know better now.

Aptera is a very different kind of practical, sure… but for a car I’d use for light commuting a couple times per week (in SoCal), there’s a chance I may never even need to plug it in. That beats out any and all other considerations, in my book.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

now there is no way I will ever touch anything Tesla or related to Musk.

Just like his ex-wives.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I've been watching the Aptera progress for years. I hope they can get to a saleable product. So efficient!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hah! This is 100% me. I was so quick to reserve a Cybertruck that I accidentally had three reservations for a few days.

And I’ve been following Aptera since 2007. I really really hope they can pull it off this time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

They announced a month or two ago that they are now fully funded and it’s finally open road to full production!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For what it's worth, I love my R1T. The build quality is miles ahead of the Teslas I've driven.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

I just wish it weren't such a sad-Pokemon homely looking little thing, especially from the front. Definitely better than the Cybertruck, though.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, that and the cybertruck is a piece of garbage

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I didn’t know at the time, years ago. I was just like “OMG Delorean truck!”

Bullet dodged.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dodged a rusty car panel slicing your hands.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought all drive-by-wire was illegal because of the lag. 1/8s does seem very possible to make a difference between life and death.

The article listed another car with 0.28s lag as responding faster. Do you know if that's a typo or is my brain not working?

Thank you for sharing this. I don't want a car with that much lag on the controls. It sounds like it isn't just Tesla, it is something you need to check on any model EV.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

You know, I think that Musk wanted Cybertrucks to be bulletproof for the same reason I don't worry about mine being bulletproof:

If you're not a huge piece of shit, people won't be taking potshots at you.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The delorean was notoriously a lemon as well

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

But at least is was a lemon with style.. unlike the Cybertruck ;P

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not even a bullet, just a small steel ball.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

So ye olde bullet. Musket ball as it were.

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