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You heard #Adobe. Deep down you knew this was coming. Now all your art are belong to them. Time to move on to better things... (cdn.masto.host)

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You heard #Adobe. Deep down you knew this was coming. Now all your art are belong to them. Time to move on to better things...

Kreative Suite
* Krita is your new design/painting app
* Kdenlive will give you video-editing powers
* glaxnimate adds 2D vector animations to you videos
* digiKam organises your collection images

https://kde.org/for/creators/
Also:
* Inkscape - create sophisticated vector-graphic designs
* Scribus - layout like a pro
* GIMP - need we say more
* Blender - ditto

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Thank you. I was actually just looking for a 2D vector animation program.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I'm all for shitting on Adobe, but this post is false according to what Adobe is saying in plain English:

Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content. Firefly generative AI models are trained on a dataset of licensed content, such as Adobe Stock, and public domain content where copyright has expired. Read more here: https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/faq.html#training-data

Adobe will never assume ownership of a customer's work. Adobe hosts content to enable customers to use our applications and services. Customers own their content and Adobe does not assume any ownership of customer work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

How dare you present us with facts!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Rabble rabble rabble!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Edit: dumb tenor here's the link to the gif. Simpsons gif

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@ArmokGoB @kde Those statements sound reassuring but they don't mean much. Adobe can say anything it wants on a blog about what it is and isn't doing right now, but the TOS changes still explicitly protect their right to do those things if they want to, so they are free to just change their mind at any time, reassurances aside.

If Adobe really wants to reassure customers, they need to write those limitations on themselves and their activities into the TOS.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://www.darktable.org/ A Lightroom alternative?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] If only you were right, but be serious the quality of Adobe softwares is 300 % better than any soft you cite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So the quality is worth the price of not owning the work you do?

I guess everyone has to make their own call...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@deaf_fish i have never said that ! I totally disagree their abusing methods but it is a different question than claiming does softs listed are as good, bref don't want to troll

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@greenman @[email protected] @[email protected]

It also uses at least 300% more resources and makes PCs run like dogshit, it's super awesome!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying that Adobe products are not "300% better"??!??! Outrageous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Bro666

Oh at least, worth every penny they mercilessly suck out if your wallet, and every bit of resources out of your PC, they'll take it all and you have absolutely no alternative, if you're "professional" enough, that is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@jabeez @Bro666 I add that I tried scribus, inkscape and darktable.
I know a bit in indesign, a lot lightroom, and a bit illustrator.
I add of course Adobe commercial methods are awful but their softwares far more developed than the foss softwares. This is quite understandable if we think about their means

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@greenman @Bro666

Of course, guess it all comes down to how much you value time vs data privacy and being abused by a megacorp. I'll readily admit I'm not a professional content creator, but have worked adjacent to them and had to deal with Adobe products, and it made me hate them even more, well before all of this. They're just a really shitty company, and now arguably straight up abusive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

@greenman @[email protected] @[email protected]

That's a nice round number. How did you get to it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] the same method used to affirm you can replace Adobe softwares by the listed softs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@greenman @[email protected] @[email protected]

But as far as I know you can.

* Bitmap design ✔️
* Vector design ✔️
* Layout ✔️
* Video editing ✔️
* Photo retouching ✔️
* Animation ✔️
* ...

Maybe you have info I am lacking. What 300% more tasks can you not do with FLOSS tools that you can with Adobe products?

Also, could you define "better"? In what way are they "better"? Because it is not in all ways, is it? The way they treat users is atrocious, so in that sense they are not "better", right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] better means you do not have to click on thousands buttons to make one thing (just try the text tool in inkscape and come back to see me), ui more intuitive, less bugs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@greenman @[email protected] @[email protected]

I am reading "I think Adobe products are better because I know how to use them."
There is no such thing as an "intuitive ui", just one you have become used to. See 1.
Can you back this up with some stats?

And that would be three things, hardly 300% more things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@kde Don't forget about Darktable for advanced photo editing. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Synfig Studio is a powerful tool for creating film-quality animation using vector and bitmap artwork.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hate adobe and have been actively trying to switch away from them for a while. I work in game development, though, and for some reason no one has made it as easy to directly modify the alpha channel of a texture. It's something I have to do a lot and is probably the one thing keeping me from using krita or affinity photo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Nachorella
Gimp can do that if I recall correctly.
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'll try it again, looks like it's come some way since I last checked.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

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We would like to remind you that both @Krita and @kdenlive are currently running fundraisers:

Krita:

https://krita.org/en/donations/

Kdenlive:

https://kdenlive.org/en/fund/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] kdenlive is based and changed me. thank you kde for making it so based.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

By comparison Inkscape was made assuming the user knows what they’re doing, very intuitive. Illustrator has so much handholding that its like it was designed assuming you do not know what you are doing. I’ve ready made several thousand using only Inkscape professionally. Illustrator is not needed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Glaxnimate really needs some love, though it's pretty powerful.

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