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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been using the same iPhone Xs Max since Nov 2018 and it’s still smooth as butter. Not seeing a reason to upgrade other than when software stops being supported/updated.

Didn’t realize companies might drop support for phones older than 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Been super common in Android land for a long time. It’s only been recently that manufacturers have been committing to 7 OS generations / years of Android support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

5 years is pretty stingy, and more importantly quite deadly for the environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

As opposed to the practices of which company?

Giving only a few years of support is not a great practice, but that’s the world we live in. If we had fully open source phones, then the community could provide the updates for much longer, but there’s still a pretty long way to go in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@FarraigePlaisteach @return2ozma 5 years is way longer than most people keep their phones, and it’s also “at least” Apple has been known to push updates to older devices way past that

An update to iOS 15 came out not too long ago iirc

Plus there are so many variables that go into whether a device will be able to actually run a particular version of software so giving a hard commitment at all is going to be conservative

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When updates gradually make those devices rage-inducingly slow, it’s inevitable that people will dispose of them. It really is a stretch to even say that they are “supporting” them.

Please don’t absolve mega corporations of their responsibility here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@FarraigePlaisteach 99 times out of 100 the reason phones are getting slow is not updates, its a failing battery

Hold corporations accountable, but also don’t just shit on things to shit on them, device support isn’t that simple

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@FarraigePlaisteach nuance is not inversely proportional to market cap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

@countablenewt @FarraigePlaisteach Yeah people really need to stop unfairly blaming Apple all the time. They do far better for device support than Android junk phones.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i guess the rare thing is the public commitment, but Apple has generally had a good track record for updates compared to its Android counterparts, who have previously failed to meet their goals or set laughable goals like 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It’s not really rare anymore now that there is legislation around it. Apple is putting this down in writing because that makes them compliant with PSTI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Right? My iPhone XS was on the newest iOS and running fine, at least until I bent it between my car door and car frame.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I’d be happy with 5 continuous days of a reliable weather app.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@return2ozma committing to a number of years of software updates is...odd, not necessarily in the sense that nobody else is doing it, but in the sense that there are so many variables that go into whether or not a device will be supported on an update it’s actually kind of hard to set that kind of deadline and truthfully stick to it

The same with the claims from Google and Samsung: I’ll believe it when I see it (after all, remember PixelPass?)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I have a feeling the 7 years of software updates for Samsung or Pixel, can't remember which, will eventually start losing some of the more advanced features in the later years due to hardware constraints.