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I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/[email protected] where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tankies are modding many communities here as well. The solution is to fight them tooth and nail.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they are creating alt accounts on non-tankie instances.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Tankies warming up to call you and Lemmy.World fascists in 3, 2, 1...

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, we want EVERYONE to feel welcome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

wait, so if someone is a Nazi, you want us to be respectful of them too? you're falling into the tolerance paradox again. "EVERYONE" here shouldn't really include the intolerant. if the intolerant feel welcome in a space, that space quickly becomes inhospitable to anyone who isn't.

edit: yeah i misread the image and the intent of the comment. apologies.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You just made me realize that I have been banned from some of the communities over there while never having posted on them, mods are reading conversations in other communities and preemptively banning people...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Oh, boy. Back to the old Reddit patterns. How long before they start using bots to preemptively ban anyone who has ever posted on certain communities regardless of context as a time saving measure, because that was a thing on Reddit as well?

Any idea which subs are banning like that already?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Ah reminds me of good ol' reddit

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