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Saw a article on a large number of gamers being over 55 and then I saw this which I believe needs to be addressed in our current laws.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We had my Dad’s password info and after he passed, his Steam acct pretty much passed over to my brother, since he was the one always using my Dad’s account anyways. We also have family sharing up, so we all still get to share from most of his games anyways.

I do wonder what they’ll do after an acct is 50-100+ years old and it’s still being used. Will they at some point start tying it to your SS# or find some other way to tie it to specific people?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think everyone is eager to have Steam let them "pass on" their games...but if that happens, there'll probably be a lot of...

  • People reporting you (aka. the owner of your account) as dead so they can steal your games
  • People fighting over legitimately dead people's Steam accounts
  • Games in a single Steam account getting divvied up amongst multiple people/accounts, which would be unnecessary overhead for Steam Support.

It'd be nice if there were an easy solution, but I don't think there is one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A lot of the problems are already solved by probate/estate/etc.

Like, if you had property at a bank, you'd need a death certificate which you'll have requested tons of if someone you loved died... along with potentially some sort of proof that you were the rightful heir (Worst case, you'd establish this through probate, likely going to end up being a simple document). This would be more overhead for steam, but usually not complicated documents once everything is settled. As for splitting up the account, your steam account would probably be classified as a singular item and any attempts to break it up in a will would likely just end up being void.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  1. They'll have to provide proof of death, which every other company has to deal with when people die.
  2. What's one more thing that crappy family is going to do, not like they're going to only fight over the stream account and not fight over the house, land, or cash.
  3. I'm going to be a little snarky here and say, "Won't somebody think of the corporations!" Having to do some extra work isn't going to bring down a billion dollar company.
  4. Who cares if it's not a simple solution? A legal solution should be provided since we as gamers have paid for these games and we should have a avenue to pass them to our surviving kin or whoever we want.
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They need to make up their minds. Yes or no question, when I buy something on steam, do I own it or am I leasing it? I've been buying there under the presumption it was the digital equivalence of buying CD's like I used to. That was how it was sold to me, and the law is very clear about transferring possessions after ones passing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pay closer attention to purchasing items on steam, they purposefully avoid using words like 'own' or even 'buy'. You 'Add to Cart' and 'Purchase' and when you buy something, it says: "Any digital items in this order are now registered to your account on Steam. To access your items, simply visit your library in Steam whenever you're ready." I felt like I owned it when I paid money for it and that's kind of the trick, but reading the wording definitely changes things.

On Steam's end, it was already decided long ago. I'd say a lot of it is contractual and Steam likely couldn't change it if they wanted to, but then they were also involved in drawing up the contracts.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I've been buying there under the presumption it was the digital equivalence of buying CD's like I used to.

Why presume when you can read the T&C?

That was how it was sold to me

I don't believe it was.

And I'm not here to support Steam/Valve. I much prefer GOG, because when you buy a game on GOG, the files are literally yours to use. Buy a copy, download it to your hard drive, copy it to a USB drive, plug the USB drive into a machine that's never been connected to the internet (let alone your GOG account) and boot up both copies at once.

YMMV when it comes to online multiplayer over severs. I'm a retro gamer, so that's not my area of expertise, lol. I think for those, you would need separate accounts to play online together.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They're just not going to move your library of games to another account's library. I highly doubt that, even though it does technically go against the TOS, giving your credentials to someone else is going to get that account banned.

They won't transfer it; but you still can. And with good reason, too. If they allowed it, people would try and use it to steal accounts.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I mean, as long as you don't give Steam any personally identifying info and make sure that your beneficiary has your password and 2FA, I don't really see how that's enforceable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's still not unreasonable in my opinion to have a legal route to pass our digital property down. Here we're talking about steam, a relatively good company, imagine what EA or Ubisoft would do without legal protections.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

So don't be stupid. Got it

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My son has the password to it and I'll make sure he gives it to his children. Lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Makes you wonder, after 100 years they flag the account for review. It would also be impressive if this service still existed after that long as well. Who knows!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Right. I wish they let people download their games like GOG.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Remember kids; if buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Agreed. Same for every digital product we buy, games, movies, music, pictures, etc. We paid for it, we own it, we can pass our along.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My sister has my account info. So when I die, she can do whatever.

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