PC Gaming

I'm more upset by the strategy of putting the first game of a series on PC but not the followup games. I'm not getting Rebirth on the PS5 when I got the first one with my save file on PC even though I have a PS5 and it's very doubtful anyone already on PC without a PS5 is gonna go out and buy a PS5 just for a sequel or two.

I have a psn account, I own a Playstation.

I don't like the slow march towards all our activities being constantly monitored by someone.

I won't be buying any pc versions of Sony games and adding my psn account to it.

Especially with PSN being a paid service and I'm sure their goal is to charge for access and all pc games will become subscription ontop

Well Sony can do whatever they wish but that doesn't mean I have to do what they want. Normally ignore any Sony related games nowadays.

The PS5 doesn't have a web browser. What CPU+GPU Sony makes you pay for the PS5? Well, if your PS5 is turn on and you want to check a web page, you'd better take a cheap android phone out (heck, a old blackberry would do) so you can check the website you want to... because your PS5 can't.

Sony, simply, live in another universe... they still have pockets to buy game studios and bribe exclusive in our dimension, but they simply don't actually exist in our reality. That's all I can think about Sony and their commercial practice: they take money from our reality (fewer and fewer each year), but they have no idea why.

While I can create a PSN account in my country, I won't. I just won't purchase anymore Sony games and be done with it.

They already joined EA, Take-Two and Ubisoft on my Steam ignore list.

I think the seven seas be particularly fine this morning, arr.

Same as I've been saying for 25 years:

Fuck Sony, and fuck their anti-consumer practices.

Think about it: even if you can get a psn account and play without a problem, this is being done to exploit and commoditize you.

Fuck Sony.

More sick of outrage bait title gore where everything is either a slam or a "forced down throat" personally. But it is annoying.

I think honestly they might be looking to have their own platform on PC one day to not paying the platform fee.

if they keep using steam backend for part of their PC framework, they will pay a lot more in the end, compare to invest now take some flames and properly push for their account backend on PC WHILE have steam's market place/distribution work for them.

Don't get me wrong, Sony already have the capability to server digital contents to all the PS5s, but it's a closed system and no worry about hacking etc as much compare to PC.

Make it a carrot, not a stick. I signed in with me gog account for cyberpunk 2077 just fine because I wanted a jacket and it was 100% optional

I'm so sick of companies doing things to maximize numbers rather than for the sake of making the best experiences. Capitalism doesn't work, our data is worth more than our loyalty now.

I have no interest in their games, so meh

I wouldn't care so much if they weren't pushing so hard. The fact they are willing to go through all of this to force it makes me suspicious.

Thank you for all the respectful comments. I complained about this on r/Steam on Reddit, thinking they'd discuss the issue like grown ups. All I got though was shit comments after shit comments, the likes of "cry about it" and "whomp whomp", someone even dismissed my rant as a "tantrum"!

And here, I'm contemplating the PSVR2 as rumors of a PC adapter.

Makes sense as a requirement for online play.

I even understand region-locking all digital PC titles to regions where they already sell digital console titles. (Global consumer care, legal, and tech support is a complex beast.)

Requirement for single player is unnecessary though.

I can’t think of any good technical or business reason for it. Just shoehorning an extra potential marketing channel that doesn’t really need to exist if they just use the PC-based channels that are already available without extra friction.

None. I don't buy AAA games.

Yeah I was fine with online only requiring it, but now they've lost me. Forcing it on single player games has made me reverse the decision on online multiplayer games as well. So even though I had every intention of picking up God of war Ragnarok at full price on PC, I'm gonna pass.

My thought is it's bullshit. My reaction is to not purchase or play any games from them and not sign up for an account. I'll be alright.

Meh, more money I get to spend elsewhere which is exactly what they care about.

My take: 🏴‍☠️

At first I was happy that sony finally ported games to PC, but I never though they would force PSN to the PC gaming community...

I would have paid for every game they would have ported, to encourage crossplatform release.

With PSN in mind, I will probably just pirate their game and call it a day. 🖕

It's kinda stupid to not have psn available to everywhere and then force your shit down on people's throat, and then shocked that piracy is on the rise. This is what Valve is against but here we are.

Fuck Sony! I will always pirate their games

From their perspective it just makes business sense. They're already developing these games for their proprietary platform, putting them on PCs for other platforms is just extra money, forcing them into the PSN network make sense. They don't care if they're leaving money on the table, it's just extra money that they weren't making before.

Sony lost me many years ago when they decided it was appropriate to include a PC rootkit on an audio CD. This only lends weight to that decision.

With all the very valid talking points that float around the Internet and here, the most important one is how sloppy Sony's data security has been throughout the years. The breaches during the last decade simply stripped every piece of trust from me. That's why I'm not a fan of PSN, even if you could argue it's just "yet another account".

But unless near everybody refuses to buy these PC games and cut into the sales of Sony through boycott, I don't see Sony stopping it.

Sony is testing the waters with trying to console-ify/enshittify PC gaming, for now it's making a PSN account and living in an "approved" country, next it's going to be paying online subscription services to play PSN games. My thoughts are game developers and consumers should avoid Sony like the plague (and request refunds / class legal action in cases like Helldivers 2 where it was introduced after the fact), there are better publishers; and if you can afford it, self-publishing.

For me feels someone is chasing a KPI on PSN users that, quite frankly, gives no one but Sony executives satisfaction on bigger number = better number. Steam on that sense made the correct decision to give back the money on people that cannot play a game anymore because of a future requirement (as mentioned by op, not everywhere psn exists). But for me, even if psn is available, you should be able to refuse to further engage on a game based on a future requirement like this and get the money back (same applies if for instance a game all of a sudden has something like denuvo).

So my take away of this is: please, get rid of kpis, it's about time we learn to get away from hard metrics that can be cheated

I doubt they'll stop. Sony realized that having a lot of people on your platform already inflates its value just by itself. With their pivot to PC gaming, it makes sense that they'd be heavy-handed about it. I for one will not join them.